From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/13] schedstats additions for sched-balance-fork
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:13:38 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <421E5192.1060604@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050224084622.GC10023@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>> [PATCH 11/13] sched-domains aware balance-on-fork
>> [PATCH 12/13] schedstats additions for sched-balance-fork
>> [PATCH 13/13] basic tuning
>
>
> STREAMS numbers tricky. It's pretty much the only benchmark that 1)
> relies on being able to allocate alot of RAM in a NUMA-friendly way 2)
> does all of its memory allocation in the first timeslice of cloned
> worker threads.
>
I know what you mean... but this is not _just_ for STREAM. Firstly,
if we start 4 tasks on one core (of a 4 socket / 8 core system), and
just let them be moved around by the periodic balancer, they will
tend to cluster on 2 or 3 CPUs, and that will be the steady state.
> There is little help we get from userspace, and i'm not sure we want to
> add scheduler overhead for this single benchmark - when something like a
> _tiny_ bit of NUMAlib use within the OpenMP library would probably solve
> things equally well!
>
True, for OpenMP apps (and this work shouldn't stop that from happening).
But other threaded apps are also important, and fork()ed apps can be
important too.
What I hear from the NUMA guys (POWER5, AMD) is that they really want to
keep memory controllers busy. This seems to be the best way to do it.
There are a few differences between this and when we last tried it. The
main thing is that the balancer is now sched-domains aware. I hope we
can get it to do the right thing more often (at least it is a per domain
flag, so those who don't want it don't turn it on).
> Anyway, the code itself looks fine and it would be good if it improved
> things, so:
>
> Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
>
> but this too needs alot of testing, and it the one that has the highest
> likelyhood of actually not making it upstream.
>
Thanks for reviewing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-24 22:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-24 7:14 [PATCH 0/13] Multiprocessor CPU scheduler patches Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:16 ` [PATCH 1/13] timestamp fixes Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:16 ` [PATCH 2/13] improve pinned task handling Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:18 ` [PATCH 3/13] rework schedstats Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:19 ` [PATCH 4/13] find_busiest_group fixlets Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:20 ` [PATCH 5/13] find_busiest_group cleanup Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:21 ` [PATCH 6/13] no aggressive idle balancing Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:22 ` [PATCH 7/13] better active balancing heuristic Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:24 ` [PATCH 8/13] generalised CPU load averaging Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:25 ` [PATCH 9/13] less affine wakups Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:27 ` [PATCH 10/13] remove aggressive idle balancing Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:28 ` [PATCH 11/13] sched-domains aware balance-on-fork Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:28 ` [PATCH 12/13] schedstats additions for sched-balance-fork Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 7:30 ` [PATCH 13/13] basic tuning Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 8:46 ` [PATCH 12/13] schedstats additions for sched-balance-fork Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24 22:13 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-02-25 11:07 ` Rick Lindsley
2005-02-25 11:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 8:41 ` [PATCH 10/13] remove aggressive idle balancing Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24 12:13 ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 12:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-06 5:43 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-03-07 5:34 ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-07 8:04 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-03-07 8:28 ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-08 7:22 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-03-08 8:17 ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-08 19:36 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-02-24 8:39 ` [PATCH 7/13] better active balancing heuristic Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24 8:36 ` [PATCH 4/13] find_busiest_group fixlets Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24 8:07 ` [PATCH 3/13] rework schedstats Ingo Molnar
2005-02-25 10:50 ` Rick Lindsley
2005-02-25 11:10 ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-25 11:25 ` DHCP on multi homed host! Ravindra Nadgauda
2005-02-24 8:04 ` [PATCH 2/13] improve pinned task handling Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24 7:46 ` [PATCH 1/13] timestamp fixes Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24 7:56 ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 8:34 ` Ingo Molnar
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