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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/13] schedstats additions for sched-balance-fork
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:13:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <421E5192.1060604@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050224084622.GC10023@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
> 
>> [PATCH 11/13] sched-domains aware balance-on-fork
>>  [PATCH 12/13] schedstats additions for sched-balance-fork
>> [PATCH 13/13] basic tuning
> 
> 
> STREAMS numbers tricky. It's pretty much the only benchmark that 1)
> relies on being able to allocate alot of RAM in a NUMA-friendly way 2)
> does all of its memory allocation in the first timeslice of cloned
> worker threads.
> 

I know what you mean... but this is not _just_ for STREAM. Firstly,
if we start 4 tasks on one core (of a 4 socket / 8 core system), and
just let them be moved around by the periodic balancer, they will
tend to cluster on 2 or 3 CPUs, and that will be the steady state.

> There is little help we get from userspace, and i'm not sure we want to
> add scheduler overhead for this single benchmark - when something like a
> _tiny_ bit of NUMAlib use within the OpenMP library would probably solve
> things equally well!
> 

True, for OpenMP apps (and this work shouldn't stop that from happening).
But other threaded apps are also important, and fork()ed apps can be
important too.

What I hear from the NUMA guys (POWER5, AMD) is that they really want to
keep memory controllers busy. This seems to be the best way to do it.

There are a few differences between this and when we last tried it. The
main thing is that the balancer is now sched-domains aware. I hope we
can get it to do the right thing more often (at least it is a per domain
flag, so those who don't want it don't turn it on).

> Anyway, the code itself looks fine and it would be good if it improved
> things, so:
> 
>  Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> 
> but this too needs alot of testing, and it the one that has the highest
> likelyhood of actually not making it upstream.
> 

Thanks for reviewing.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-24 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-24  7:14 [PATCH 0/13] Multiprocessor CPU scheduler patches Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:16 ` [PATCH 1/13] timestamp fixes Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:16   ` [PATCH 2/13] improve pinned task handling Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:18     ` [PATCH 3/13] rework schedstats Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:19       ` [PATCH 4/13] find_busiest_group fixlets Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:20         ` [PATCH 5/13] find_busiest_group cleanup Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:21           ` [PATCH 6/13] no aggressive idle balancing Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:22             ` [PATCH 7/13] better active balancing heuristic Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:24               ` [PATCH 8/13] generalised CPU load averaging Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:25                 ` [PATCH 9/13] less affine wakups Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:27                   ` [PATCH 10/13] remove aggressive idle balancing Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:28                     ` [PATCH 11/13] sched-domains aware balance-on-fork Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:28                       ` [PATCH 12/13] schedstats additions for sched-balance-fork Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  7:30                         ` [PATCH 13/13] basic tuning Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  8:46                         ` [PATCH 12/13] schedstats additions for sched-balance-fork Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24 22:13                           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-02-25 11:07                           ` Rick Lindsley
2005-02-25 11:21                             ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  8:41                     ` [PATCH 10/13] remove aggressive idle balancing Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24 12:13                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 12:16                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-06  5:43                         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-03-07  5:34                           ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-07  8:04                             ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-03-07  8:28                               ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-08  7:22                                 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-03-08  8:17                                   ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-08 19:36                                     ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-02-24  8:39               ` [PATCH 7/13] better active balancing heuristic Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24  8:36         ` [PATCH 4/13] find_busiest_group fixlets Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24  8:07       ` [PATCH 3/13] rework schedstats Ingo Molnar
2005-02-25 10:50       ` Rick Lindsley
2005-02-25 11:10         ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-25 11:25           ` DHCP on multi homed host! Ravindra Nadgauda
2005-02-24  8:04     ` [PATCH 2/13] improve pinned task handling Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24  7:46   ` [PATCH 1/13] timestamp fixes Ingo Molnar
2005-02-24  7:56     ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  8:34       ` Ingo Molnar

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