From: Kaigai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
To: Jay Lan <jlan@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
guillaume.thouvenin@bull.net, tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de,
erikj@subway.americas.sgi.com, limin@dbear.engr.sgi.com,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] Re: A common layer for Accounting packages
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:07:37 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <421EB299.4010906@ak.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <421CEC38.7010008@sgi.com>
Sorry for this late reply.
>> [1] Is it necessary 'fork/exec/exit' event handling framework ?
...<ommited>...
>> Some process-aggregation model have own philosophy and implemantation,
>> so it's hard to integrate. Thus, I think that common 'fork/exec/exit'
>> event handling
>> framework to implement any kinds of process-aggregation.
>
>
> BSD needs an exit hook and ELSA needs a fork hook. I am still
> evaluating whether CSA can use the ELSA module. If CSA can use the
> ELSA module, CSA maybe would be fine with the fork hook.
If CSA can use an ELSA module, then we must modify the kernel-tree
for ELSA's fork-connecter. This means it's hard to implement the fork/exec/exit
event notification to userspace (,or any kernel module) without kernel-support.
How CSA shoule be implemented is interesting and important, but should it be
main subject in this discussion that such a kinds of kernel hook is necessary
to implement process-accounting per process-aggregation reasonable ?
In my understanding, what Andrew Morton said is "If target functionality can
implement in user space only, then we should not modify the kernel-tree".
But, any kind of kernel support was required to handle process lifecycle events
for the accounting per process-aggregation and so on, from our discussion.
I'm also opposed to an adhoc approach, like CSA depending on ELSA.
We should walk hight road.
Thanks,
--
Linux Promotion Center, NEC
KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-25 5:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-19 0:51 A common layer for Accounting packages Jay Lan
2005-02-19 1:16 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-21 6:51 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-22 20:11 ` [Lse-tech] " Jay Lan
2005-02-23 7:30 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-21 7:54 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-22 20:26 ` Jay Lan
2005-02-23 7:07 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-23 7:20 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-23 8:33 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-23 8:51 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-23 9:30 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-23 9:36 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-23 19:11 ` Jay Lan
2005-02-24 7:42 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-23 9:50 ` Tim Schmielau
2005-02-24 22:27 ` Jay Lan
2005-02-23 11:29 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-23 20:48 ` Jay Lan
2005-02-25 5:07 ` Kaigai Kohei [this message]
2005-02-25 5:28 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-25 17:32 ` Jay Lan
2005-02-25 17:45 ` Chris Wright
2005-02-25 18:11 ` Jay Lan
2005-02-25 21:30 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-25 22:18 ` Jay Lan
2005-02-27 9:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-27 15:20 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-02-27 14:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-27 19:27 ` David S. Miller
2005-02-28 1:59 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-28 2:32 ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-28 5:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-02-28 7:20 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-28 7:39 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-28 8:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-02-28 12:10 ` jamal
2005-02-28 9:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-28 13:20 ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-28 13:40 ` jamal
2005-02-28 13:53 ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-28 9:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-28 14:10 ` jamal
2005-02-28 14:25 ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-28 15:31 ` jamal
2005-02-28 16:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-01 8:21 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-01 13:38 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-03-01 13:53 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-01 14:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-02 4:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-02 8:58 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-02 9:06 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-02 9:25 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-02 15:30 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-01 20:40 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-24 1:25 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-24 1:56 ` Jay Lan
2005-02-24 2:07 ` Paul Jackson
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