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From: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Linas Vepstas <linas@austin.ibm.com>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] I/O-check interface for driver's error handling
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:28:01 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <422524B1.10405@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050301165904.GN28741@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>

Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> I think what Jeff meant was "this new API handles none of this".
> And that's true, it doesn't handle DMA errors.  But I think that's just
> something that hasn't been written/designed yet.

Yes, this API just supports drivers wanting to be more RAS-aware.
It would be happy if how implement it could be separate in two part:
  - arch-specific part
     Capability would depend on arch, can only generic thing but couldn't
     be device specific. Device/bus isolation could be(with help of hotplug
     and so on), but re-enable them would not be easily.
  - generic part
     Capability would depend on drivers, should be more device specific.
How divide and connect them is now in discussion and consideration.

> So how should we handle it?  Obviously the driver may not be executing
> when a PCI parity error occurs, so we probably get to find out about
> this through some architecture-specific whole-system error, let's call
> it an MCA.
> 
> The MCA handler has to go and figure out what the hell just happened
> (was it a DIMM error, PCI bus error, etc).  OK, fine, it finds that it
> was an error on PCI bus 73.  At this point, I think the architecture
> error handler needs to call into the PCI subsystem and say "Hey, there
> was an error, you deal with it".
> 
> If we're lucky, we get all the information that allows us to figure
> out which device it was (eg a destination address that matches a BAR),
> then we could have a ->error method in the pci_driver that handles it.
> If there's no ->error method, at leat call ->remove so one device only
> takes itself down.
> 
> Does this make sense?

Note that here is a difficulty: the MCA handler on some arch would run on
special context - MCA environment. In other words, since some MCA handler
would be called by non-maskable interrupt(e.g. NMI), so it's difficult to
call some driver's callback using protected kernel locks from MCA context.

Therefore what MCA handler could do is just indicates a error was there,
by something like status flag which drivers can refer. And after possible
deley, we would be able to call callbacks.


Thanks,
H.Seto


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-02  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-01  8:33 [PATCH/RFC] I/O-check interface for driver's error handling Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-01 14:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-03-01 19:27   ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 19:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-02  6:13     ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-02 19:20       ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-04  2:03         ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-04 16:46           ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 16:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-01 16:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-01 16:59     ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-03-01 17:10       ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-01 18:33         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 22:27           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 20:02             ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 22:46               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 23:37                 ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 22:23         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02  3:13         ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-04 13:54         ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 17:50           ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-04 22:37           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 22:57             ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 23:03               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 23:18                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 23:27                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02  2:28       ` Hidetoshi Seto [this message]
2005-03-02 17:44         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 18:03           ` linux-os
2005-03-02 22:40             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04  2:21           ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-01 22:20     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 18:22     ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 18:41       ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-02 19:46         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 22:43         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 22:41       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 23:30         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 23:40           ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-01 19:17   ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 22:15   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-01 17:19 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-01 18:08   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-01 18:45     ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-01 18:59     ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 22:26     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-01 22:24   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 12:40 ` Hidetoshi Seto

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