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From: "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>
To: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@utah-nac.org>
Cc: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>,
	gene.heskett@verizon.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:03:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42273535.9030505@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <422731B0.6040007@utah-nac.org>

Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 21:28 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>   
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>> Another Linux patent.....
>>>>>       
>>
>>
>> ... and another - AFAICS obvious - trivial ("prior art") patent (but I'm
>> not fluent in patent quak, I'm just a simple systems engineer).
>>
>> And one more reason to sent the European software patent directive
>> simply to hell, clarify in §52.2 to not patentability of "software"
>> discarding the word play of the patent attorneys and offices and get
>> into the head of the folks of the EPO (with whatever means are
>> necessary).
>>
>>  
>>
>>>> And that pretty much says it.  Assigned to the Canopy Group.  So SCO 
>>>> will have yet another lawsuit to threaten us with.  If they survive 
>>>>     
>>
>>
>> Apparently Canopy Group/SCO/... are not of the front of innovation since
>> "what is new on a RAID system in any way in 2005"?
>>
>>  
>>
>>>> the thrashing I've Been Moved will give them at the end of the day.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>
>>> The way to fight the patents is for Linux developers to file their 
>>> own and start putting down stakes.
>>>   
>>
>>
>> Or simply drop the whole patent system as such. Apparently it is only
>> abused to make money of the inventions of others and for sure does not
>> help innovation as such in any way (it may help the lawyers, offices and
>> companies in that area - patent utilisation - to get rich but that area
>> has nothing to do with innovation).
>>
>>     Bernd
>>  
>>
> Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States 
> Constitution, and patents
> are not going away.  Live with guys.  The best way to win the patent 
                             NO.
> wars is for people
> who do Linux development to file their own patents and put some stakes 
> in the ground.
> 
> You guys keep saying, "stop the patents" but this is insanity.  It's 
> like all these big companies
> used patents like swords and are hemming linux in, and Linux stands 
> naked and defenseless.
> You guys need to get your own swords and fight -- start filing patents 
> -- go to this new law
> center "Southern Poverty Law Center" they setup I read about and get 
> these folks to start
> filing patents on Linux code (before you disclose it that is) and 
> protect yourselves.  Then
> you have ammo to negotiate cross patent agreements with MS and these 
> other companies to create a balance of power.

Morris Dees helps Linux?  That's good news.  I like the SPLC.

But I would consider checking with the (new) Software Freedom
Law Center too:  http://www.softwarefreedom.org/

-- 
~Randy

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-03 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-03  2:36 [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609] Jeff V. Merkey
2005-03-03  3:27 ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-03  4:28   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-03-03  6:21     ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-03 10:03       ` Måns Rullgård
2005-03-03 10:31       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-03-03 11:22         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-03 15:42       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-03-04 19:46       ` Tom Vier
2005-03-03 10:26     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-03-03 15:48       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-03-03 16:03         ` Randy.Dunlap [this message]
2005-03-03 16:49           ` jmerkey
2005-03-03 17:39         ` James Simmons
2005-03-03 17:55           ` jmerkey
2005-03-03 20:11         ` Trever L. Adams
2005-03-03 20:31           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-03-04 11:05           ` Bernd Petrovitsch

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