* Random number generator in Linux kernel
@ 2005-03-07 23:18 Vineet Joglekar
2005-03-08 12:59 ` Darío Mariani
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From: Vineet Joglekar @ 2005-03-07 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel; +Cc: linux-c-programming
Hi all,
Can someone please tell me where can I find and which random/pseudo-random number generator can I use inside the linux kernel? (2.4.28)
I found out 1 function get_random_bytes() in linux/drivers/char/random.c but thats not what I want.
I want a function where I will be supplying a seed to that function as an input, and will get a random number back. If same seed is used, same number should be generated again.
Can anybody please help me with that?
Thanks and regards,
Vineet.
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* Re: Random number generator in Linux kernel
2005-03-07 23:18 Random number generator in Linux kernel Vineet Joglekar
@ 2005-03-08 12:59 ` Darío Mariani
2005-03-08 13:31 ` Erik Mouw
2005-03-09 20:39 ` Bill Davidsen
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From: Darío Mariani @ 2005-03-08 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: linux-kernel, linux-c-programming
As far as I understand the kernel generates random numbers gathering
data from several entropy sources, you will never get repetability
from there. Two options I know of:
1) The standard C library has the functions rand and random, wich
seems to have a decent distribution of the random numbers.
2) If you use C++, the Boost library (www.boost.org) has an excelent
set of options for generating random numbers.
Darío
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:18:53 -0500 (EST), Vineet Joglekar
<vintya@excite.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Can someone please tell me where can I find and which random/pseudo-random number generator can I use inside the linux kernel? (2.4.28)
>
> I found out 1 function get_random_bytes() in linux/drivers/char/random.c but thats not what I want.
>
> I want a function where I will be supplying a seed to that function as an input, and will get a random number back. If same seed is used, same number should be generated again.
>
> Can anybody please help me with that?
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Vineet.
>
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* Re: Random number generator in Linux kernel
2005-03-07 23:18 Random number generator in Linux kernel Vineet Joglekar
2005-03-08 12:59 ` Darío Mariani
@ 2005-03-08 13:31 ` Erik Mouw
2005-03-09 20:39 ` Bill Davidsen
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From: Erik Mouw @ 2005-03-08 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vineet Joglekar; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-c-programming
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 06:18:53PM -0500, Vineet Joglekar wrote:
> I want a function where I will be supplying a seed to that function
> as an input, and will get a random number back. If same seed is used,
> same number should be generated again.
Google for "Numerical recipes in C", it has a complete section about
random numbers, including a couple of functions that do what you want.
Erik
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* Re: Random number generator in Linux kernel
@ 2005-03-09 10:32 selvakumar nagendran
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From: selvakumar nagendran @ 2005-03-09 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: vintya; +Cc: linux-kernel
I think ur idea of generating a random number
with a seed will not be effective. The kernel comes up
with true random number generation by using the random
interaction of device drivers with the kernel. I think
that will be more effective than ur logic. It provides
true randomness and it avoids any guess.
For more details u please refer the book ' Linux
kernel development' by Robert M Love Appendix C kernel
Random Number Generator. If u still want to stick to
ur own logic then u can implement it as a function
inside the kernel.
Regards,
selva
--- Vineet Joglekar <vintya@excite.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Can someone please tell me where can I find and
> which random/pseudo-random number generator can I
> use inside the linux kernel? (2.4.28)
>
> I found out 1 function get_random_bytes() in
> linux/drivers/char/random.c but thats not what I
> want.
>
> I want a function where I will be supplying a seed
> to that function as an input, and will get a random
> number back. If same seed is used, same number
> should be generated again.
>
> Can anybody please help me with that?
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Vineet.
>
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* Re: Random number generator in Linux kernel
2005-03-07 23:18 Random number generator in Linux kernel Vineet Joglekar
2005-03-08 12:59 ` Darío Mariani
2005-03-08 13:31 ` Erik Mouw
@ 2005-03-09 20:39 ` Bill Davidsen
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From: Bill Davidsen @ 2005-03-09 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: vintya; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-c-programming
Vineet Joglekar wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Can someone please tell me where can I find and which
> random/pseudo-random number generator can I use inside the linux
> kernel? (2.4.28)
>
> I found out 1 function get_random_bytes() in
> linux/drivers/char/random.c but thats not what I want.
>
> I want a function where I will be supplying a seed to that function
> as an input, and will get a random number back. If same seed is used,
> same number should be generated again.
Without knowing what you're doing I can't say if it justifies having all
that extra code around, but the stuff from the library, like srand48,
will do this. You can add the code to your module.
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