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From: Paul Moore <pmoore@redhat.com>
To: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sgrubb@redhat.com, eparis@redhat.com, v.rathor@gmail.com,
	ctcard@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V1] audit: add warning that an old auditd may be starved out by a new auditd
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 16:50:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4246819.OGLW0CmS4i@sifl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150907165818.GH8140@madcap2.tricolour.ca>

On Monday, September 07, 2015 12:58:18 PM Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> On 15/09/07, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > Nothing prevents a new auditd starting up and replacing a valid
> > audit_pid when an old auditd is still running, effectively starving out
> > the old auditd since audit_pid no longer points to the old valid auditd.
> > 
> > There isn't an easy way to detect if an old auditd is still running on
> > the existing audit_pid other than attempting to send a message to see if
> > it fails.  If no message to auditd has been attempted since auditd died
> > unnaturally or got killed, audit_pid will still indicate it is alive.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
> 
> Ok, self-nack on this one for a couple of problems...
> netlink_getsockbyportid() is static to af_netlink.c and "pid" should be
> task_tgid_vnr(current).  Otherwise, any opinions on this approach?
> 
> > ---
> > Note: Would it be too bold to actually block the registration of a new
> > auditd if the netlink_getsockbyportid() call succeeded?  Would other
> > checks be appropriate?

Hmm.  It seems like we should prevent the registration of a new auditd if we 
already have an auditd instance connected, although as you say, that isn't the 
easiest thing to do.

How painful would it be to return -EAGAIN to the new auditd while sending some 
sort of keep-alive/ping/etc. message to the old daemon to check its status?

-- 
paul moore
security @ redhat


  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-07 16:48 [PATCH V1] audit: add warning that an old auditd may be starved out by a new auditd Richard Guy Briggs
2015-09-07 16:58 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2015-09-09 20:50   ` Paul Moore [this message]
2015-09-11 10:21     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2015-09-11 18:56       ` Paul Moore
2015-09-13 16:08         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2015-09-14 19:37           ` Paul Moore
2015-09-16 10:24             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2015-09-16 21:45               ` Paul Moore
2015-09-17 11:35                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2015-09-17 22:40                   ` Paul Moore
2015-09-08 14:57 ` Eric Paris
2015-09-09  6:31   ` Richard Guy Briggs

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