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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	"Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] use cheaper elv_queue_empty when unplug a device
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:23:56 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42492CBC.1060406@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112091026.6282.43.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 19:19 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>- removes the relock/retry merge mechanism in __make_request if we
>>   aren't able to get the GFP_ATOMIC allocation. Just fall through
>>   and assume the chances of getting a merge will be small (is this
>>   a valid assumption? Should measure it I guess).
> 
> 
> this may have a potential problem; if the vm gets in trouble, you
> suddenly start to generate worse IO patterns, which means IO performance
> goes down right when it's most needed.....
> 

Sorry my wording was incorrect. It currently *always* retries the
merge if it had at first failed, and after the patch, we never retry.
So it should not result in behavioural shifts when there is a VM load
is high.

It seems to be a clear source of problems for Kenneth though, because
his workload appears to have almost zero merges, so he'll always be
invoking the merge logic twice.

I agree there is potential for subtle interactions. But generally the
block layer is surprisingly well behaved in my experience.

As Jens said, the complete removal of the GFP_ATOMIC allocation probably
has the most potential for problems in this regard, although bios are not
using GFP_ATOMIC allocations, so I would be a little surprised if it made
a really noticable difference.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-29 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-29  2:53 [patch] use cheaper elv_queue_empty when unplug a device Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-29  8:06 ` Jens Axboe
2005-03-29  9:19   ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-29  9:21     ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-29  9:28     ` Jens Axboe
2005-03-29  9:50       ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-29 10:06       ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-30  0:57         ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-30  8:11           ` Jens Axboe
2005-04-08  9:45           ` Jens Axboe
2005-04-08  9:55             ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-08 10:02               ` Jens Axboe
2005-04-08 10:22                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-29 10:10     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-29 10:19       ` Jens Axboe
2005-03-29 10:23       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-03-29 13:15     ` Jens Axboe
2005-03-30  0:07       ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-29 19:02     ` Chen, Kenneth W

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