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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: "Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kenneth.w.chen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [patch] sched: improve pinned task handling again!
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 13:11:20 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <424E0D58.1070700@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050401185812.A5598@unix-os.sc.intel.com>

Siddha, Suresh B wrote:

> 
> This time Ken Chen brought up this issue -- No it has nothing to do with 
> industry db benchmark ;-) 
> 
> Even with the above mentioned Nick's patch in -mm, I see system livelock's 
> if for example I have 7000 processes pinned onto one cpu (this is on the 
> fastest 8-way system I have access to). I am sure there will be other 
> systems where this problem can be encountered even with lesser pin count.
> 

Thanks for testing these patches in -mm, by the way.

> We tried to fix this issue but as you know there is no good mechanism
> in fixing this issue with out letting the regular paths know about this.
> 
> Our proposed solution is appended and we tried to minimize the affect on 
> fast path.  It builds up on Nick's patch and once this situation is detected,
> it will not do any more move_tasks as long as busiest cpu is always the 
> same cpu and the queued processes on busiest_cpu, their
> cpu affinity remain same(found out by runqueue's "generation_num")
> 

7000 running processes pinned into one CPU. I guess that isn't a
great deal :(

How important is this? Any application to real workloads? Even if
not, I agree it would be nice to improve this more. I don't know
if I really like this approach - I guess due to what it adds to
fastpaths.

Now presumably if the all_pinned logic is working properly in the
first place, and it is correctly causing balancing to back-off, you
could tweak that a bit to avoid livelocks? Perhaps the all_pinned
case should back off faster than the usual doubling of the interval,
and be allowed to exceed max_interval?

Any thoughts Ingo?

-- 
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-02  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-02  2:58 [patch] sched: improve pinned task handling again! Siddha, Suresh B
2005-04-02  3:11 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-04-02  4:05   ` Siddha, Suresh B
2005-04-02  4:12     ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-04  1:46     ` Chen, Kenneth W

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