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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>,
	"Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	"'Paul Jackson'" <pj@engr.sgi.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Industry db benchmark result on recent 2.6 kernels
Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:38:01 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <424F9D59.5060907@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0504022318160.5402@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>

David Lang wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>
>>> given that this would let you get the same storage with about 1200 
>>> fewer
>>> drives (with corresponding savings in raid controllers, fiberchannel
>>> controllers and rack frames) it would be interesting to know how 
>>> close it
>>> would be (for a lot of people the savings, which probably are within
>>> spitting distance of $1M could be work the decrease in performance)
>>
>>
>> For benchmarks like these, the issue isn't the storage capacity, but
>> rather the ability to have lots of heads seeking concurrently to
>> access the many database tables.  At one large site I used to work at,
>> the database ran on hundreds of 1, 2, and 4GB disks long after they
>> could be replaced by many fewer, larger disks...
>
>
> I can understand this to a point, but it seems to me that after you 
> get beyond some point you stop gaining from this (simply becouse you 
> run out of bandwidth to keep all the heads busy). I would have guessed 
> that this happened somewhere in the hundreds of drives rather then the 
> thousands, so going from 1500x73G to 400x300G (even if this drops you 
> from 15Krpm to 10Krpm) would still saturate the interface bandwidth 
> before the drives
>

But in this case probably not - Ken increases IO capacity until the CPUs 
become saturated.
So there probably isn't a very large margin for error, you might need 
2000 of the slower
SATA disks to achieve a similar IOPS capacity.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-03  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-28 19:33 Industry db benchmark result on recent 2.6 kernels Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-28 19:50 ` Dave Hansen
2005-03-28 20:01   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-30  0:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-30  0:22   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-30  0:46   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-30  0:57     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-30  1:31       ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-30  1:38         ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-30  1:56           ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-31 14:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-31 19:53             ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-31 20:05               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-31 20:08                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-31 22:14                   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-31 23:35                     ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-01  6:05                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-01  6:34                         ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-01  7:19                           ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-01  6:46                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-01 22:32                           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-04-01 22:51                             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-02  2:19                               ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-04  1:40                               ` Kevin Puetz
2005-04-02  1:44                             ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-02  2:05                               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-04-02  2:38                                 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-03  6:36                                 ` David Lang
2005-04-03  6:53                                   ` Andreas Dilger
2005-04-03  7:23                                     ` David Lang
2005-04-03  7:38                                       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-04-01  6:59                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-01  9:29                           ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-01 10:34                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-01 14:39                               ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-01  4:52                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-01  5:14                       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-04-01 22:51   ` Chen, Kenneth W
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-01 16:34 Manfred Spraul
2005-04-02  1:00 Chen, Kenneth W
2005-04-02  2:12 ` Nick Piggin

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