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From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
To: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
Cc: linux-os@analogic.com, debian-legal@lists.debian.org,
	debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:50:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4252DDE6.5040500@nortel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112723637.4878.14.camel@mirchusko.localnet>

Josselin Mouette wrote:

> The fact is also that mixing them with a GPLed software gives
> an result you can't redistribute - although it seems many people
> disagree with that assertion now.

This is only true if the result is considered a "derivative work" of the 
gpl'd code.

The GPL states "In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based 
on the Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on 
a volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other 
work under the scope of this License."

Since the main cpu does not actually run the binary firmware, the fact 
that it lives in main memory with the code that the cpu *does* run is 
irrelevent.  In this case, the Debian stance is that the kernel proper 
and the binary firmware are "merely aggregated" in a volume of storage ( 
ie. system memory).

Chris


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-05 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2005-04-05 15:00 ` non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice Humberto Massa
2005-04-05 15:50   ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-05 17:53     ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 18:17       ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-05 18:34         ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 18:50       ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2005-04-05 18:56         ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-06  0:10           ` Sven Luther
2005-04-06  7:34             ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-06  7:46               ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08  7:47         ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 19:28       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 19:40         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 19:50           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 20:02             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 20:16         ` Brian Gerst
2005-04-05 20:41           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 21:13             ` Brian Gerst
2005-04-06  9:04         ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-06 20:15         ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-08  7:44     ` Sven Luther
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2005-04-14 18:26 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-14 12:18 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-14 17:44   ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14 18:43     ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-12 20:23 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-14  1:37   ` David Schwartz
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2005-04-12 17:29 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-12 11:44 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-12 19:01   ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 21:31     ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-12  9:41   ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 16:44     ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 17:50       ` Raul Miller
2005-04-12 19:05         ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 21:37           ` Raul Miller
2005-04-14  1:54             ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14  5:13               ` Raul Miller
2005-04-12 18:53       ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-12 19:15         ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 20:00           ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-12 22:45             ` David Schwartz
2005-04-13  5:46               ` Raul Miller
2005-04-13  6:28                 ` Sean Kellogg
2005-04-13 13:55                   ` Raul Miller
2005-04-13  9:17               ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-11 16:12 Marco Colombo
2005-04-11 16:25 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-11 20:54   ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-11 21:07     ` Sven Luther
2005-04-12  0:40       ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-12  5:40         ` Sven Luther
2005-04-12 16:14           ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-12 18:45             ` Sven Luther
2005-04-13  2:23               ` Zan Lynx
2005-04-13 14:53               ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-13 19:47                 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-14 18:03                   ` Marco Colombo
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2005-04-11 13:44 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-11 11:54 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-11 13:36   ` Michael Poole
2005-04-11 19:31   ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 19:46     ` Michael Poole
2005-04-11 20:29     ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-11 11:51 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-11 11:44 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-08 12:08 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-08 12:20   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-04-07 14:30 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 14:53   ` Oliver Neukum
2005-04-07 15:01     ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 15:07       ` Oliver Neukum
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2005-04-07 12:29 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 13:03   ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-07 13:30     ` John Stoffel
2005-04-07 13:34     ` Måns Rullgård
2005-04-07 14:15     ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08  8:06       ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08  9:46   ` Ralph Corderoy
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2005-04-07 12:15 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-08  2:10   ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-08  3:05     ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08  3:56       ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-08  7:57         ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 20:48         ` David Schwartz
2005-04-09 11:19           ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-10  3:07             ` David Schwartz
2005-04-10  4:20               ` Glenn Maynard
2005-04-10 20:18                 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11  1:34                   ` Glenn Maynard
2005-04-11  2:40                     ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 20:17                   ` Raul Miller
2005-04-11 11:43                 ` Anthony DeRobertis
2005-04-11  0:26               ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-11  2:40                 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08  4:05       ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08  7:54     ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08  7:51   ` Sven Luther
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2005-04-05 19:00 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-06 20:36   ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-05 16:53 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-05 14:37 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-05 12:03 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-05 12:16   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 14:02     ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 17:30       ` Horst von Brand
2005-04-05 13:57   ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 14:53     ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 20:56     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-07 21:05       ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08  0:31         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08  6:54           ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 17:20             ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-04-04 10:09 Sven Luther
2005-04-04 10:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-04 10:59   ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07  7:17     ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07 11:27       ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 13:26 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-04 14:16   ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 17:51     ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 18:21       ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:12         ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-04 19:24           ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:36           ` Roland Dreier
2005-04-04 18:27       ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:17         ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 19:29           ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:58             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-04 20:23               ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 21:05                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-04 21:16                   ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 20:55             ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-04 21:19               ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05  8:19                 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05  8:32                   ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05  8:49                     ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05  9:11                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05  9:28                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05  9:32                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05  9:36                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05  9:39                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05 10:42                                 ` Andres Salomon
2005-04-05  9:46                               ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 12:09                             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 12:14                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-06 19:22                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-07  9:34                             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-07 10:28                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-07 11:27                             ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 11:46                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-07 18:42                                 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08  3:06                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-08  6:41                                     ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05  9:30                         ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05  9:36                           ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 15:21                   ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 21:37                     ` Don Armstrong
2005-04-04 18:39       ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-04-04 19:55         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-04 20:27           ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 20:47             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-04 21:24               ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 21:58                 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05  9:33               ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07  1:05               ` Alan Cox
2005-04-07  7:28               ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07  7:25         ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07  8:04           ` David Schmitt
2005-04-07  8:17             ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-07  8:32               ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-07  8:46                 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-07  8:26           ` David Schwartz
2005-04-07 20:16             ` Raul Miller
2005-04-07 23:20               ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08  3:55                 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08  7:41                   ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 12:30                     ` Raul Miller
2005-04-04 19:05       ` Marco d'Itri
2005-04-04 19:14         ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 19:32         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-05 14:05           ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 15:39             ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 21:07             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08  7:22               ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 11:23                 ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-08 17:34                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 17:42                   ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 18:01                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 18:16                       ` Rich Walker
2005-04-08 18:42                       ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-10  9:24                         ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-04-11 20:55                           ` Raul Miller
2005-04-09  0:31                   ` Raul Miller
2005-04-09 14:38                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-09 20:31                       ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08 11:53               ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:41         ` Sven Luther

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