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From: Tomko <tomko@haha.com>
To: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why system call need to copy the date from the userspace before using it
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:43:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <425CF7DB.4000407@haha.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050413102916.GS4965@lug-owl.de>

hi ,
Thank you for your reply, can i ask some more question?

Inside the system call , the kernel often copy the data by calling 
copy_from_user() rather than just using strcpy(), is it because the 
memory mapping in kenel space is different from user space?  for example 
, now user program want to pass a pointer *a to kernel space , is it 
true that *a seems means address 0xb000 to user space but actually it is 
at 0xc000 at kernel space?

Thx a lot,
TOM

Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:

>On Wed, 2005-04-13 12:21:41 +0800, Tomko <tomko@haha.com>
>wrote in message <425C9E55.6010607@haha.com>:
>  
>
>>While i am reading the source code of the linux system call , i find 
>>that the system call need to call copy_from_user() to copy the data from 
>>user space to kernel space before using it . Why not use it directly as 
>>the system call has got the address ?  Furthermore , how to distinguish 
>>between user space and kernel space ?
>>    
>>
>
>Think about the memory access. The page that contains the data could be
>swapped out, so the kernel isn't allowed to just access it, because it's
>not there.
>
>MfG, JBG
>
>  
>


  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-13 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-13  4:21 Why system call need to copy the date from the userspace before using it Tomko
2005-04-13  5:30 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-04-13 10:29 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-04-13 10:43   ` Tomko [this message]
2005-04-13 11:10     ` Catalin Marinas
2005-04-14  2:10       ` Tomko
2005-04-14  2:18         ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14 14:05         ` Helge Hafting
2005-04-13 11:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-13 11:59   ` Hacksaw
2005-04-13 12:40     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-13 18:37       ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-13 19:20         ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-16  4:50           ` Hacksaw
2005-04-16  5:18             ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-04-16  8:30               ` Hacksaw
2005-04-16 19:35                 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-04-16 23:46             ` David Wagner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-13  6:48 Vadim Lobanov

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