From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Takashi Ikebe <ikebe.takashi@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:35:04 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42635518.6040704@nortel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050418061221.GA32315@taniwha.stupidest.org>
Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 01:19:57PM +0900, Takashi Ikebe wrote:
>
>
>>From our experience, sometimes patches became to dozens to hundreds
>>at one patching, and in this case GDB based approach cause target
>>process's availability descent.
> could you perhaps explain some *real* *world* applications/systems
> where this is necessary and why existing APIs won't work with them
> perhaps?
In the telecom space it's quite common to want to modify multiple
running binaries with as little downtime as possible. (Beyond a
threshold it becomes FCC-reportable in the US, and everyone wants to
avoid that...)
Our old proprietary OS had explicit support for replacing running binary
code on the fly, so customers have gotten used to the ability. Now they
want equivalent functionality with our linux-based stuff.
We've done some proprietary stuff (ie. pre-OSDL CGL) in this area, but
it was apparently a real pain and was quite restrictive on the
application writers. (I was not involved with that portion of the project.)
For general application support I suspect some kernel support will be
required. Whether this is the way to go or whether it can be done using
existing mechanisms, I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment.
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-18 6:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-18 3:19 [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7 Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 4:07 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 4:19 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 4:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-18 4:55 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-04-18 5:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2005-04-18 5:41 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-07-11 7:18 ` [PATCH] eventpoll : Suppress a short lived lock from struct file Eric Dumazet
2005-07-11 8:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-11 9:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-07-11 14:00 ` Davide Libenzi
2005-07-11 15:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-04-18 5:00 ` [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7 David S. Miller
2005-04-18 6:12 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 6:35 ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2005-04-18 6:48 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 10:03 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-04-18 9:10 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 7:32 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 7:56 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 8:37 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 8:59 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 9:16 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-18 9:25 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 11:30 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-18 12:52 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 14:06 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-19 2:14 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-19 4:27 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-19 5:19 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-19 5:52 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 4:18 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20 5:43 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 7:35 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20 7:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 7:57 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20 8:26 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 8:45 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20 8:51 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 11:19 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-20 15:06 ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-20 8:34 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2005-04-19 5:57 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 14:28 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-20 13:10 ` Ralf Baechle
2005-04-20 15:08 ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-23 16:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-25 2:11 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-25 2:48 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-25 10:39 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-25 11:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-25 15:09 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-25 15:54 ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-25 16:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-04-26 1:34 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-26 2:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-26 9:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26 13:05 ` Andi Kleen
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2005-04-18 10:59 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
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