public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Takashi Ikebe <ikebe.takashi@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:18:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4265D80F.6030007@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050419055254.GA15895@taniwha.stupidest.org>

Hello,
Chris Wedgwood wrote:

>
>  
>
>>On live patching, you never need to use shared memory, just prepare
>>fixed code, and just compile it as shared ibject, that's all. pretty
>>easy and fast to replace the functions.
>>    
>>
>
>it requires magic like a compiler and knowledge of the original
>application.
>  
>
Well, Live patching is just a patch, so I think the developer of patch
should know the original source code well.

>if the application was written sensibly someone without access to the
>application code could change this live taking over the previous
>applications state even more easily --- and the code would be more
>straightforward.  so i still fail to see why this is needed.
>  
>
Well, as you said some application can do that, but some application can
not continue service with your suggestion.
please think about the process which use connection type communication
such as TCP(it's only example) between users and server. During status
copy, all the session between users and server are disconnected... can
not save the exiting service at all.
It's one example, but similar problems may occurs whenever processed use
the resources which are mainly controlled by kernel.

-- 
Takashi Ikebe
NTT Network Service Systems Laboratories
9-11, Midori-Cho 3-Chome Musashino-Shi,
Tokyo 180-8585 Japan
Tel : +81 422 59 4246, Fax : +81 422 60 4012
e-mail : ikebe.takashi@lab.ntt.co.jp



  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-20  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-18  3:19 [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7 Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18  4:07 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18  4:19   ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18  4:42     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-18  4:55       ` Nicholas Miell
2005-04-18  5:01         ` Davide Libenzi
2005-04-18  5:41           ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-07-11  7:18           ` [PATCH] eventpoll : Suppress a short lived lock from struct file Eric Dumazet
2005-07-11  8:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-11  9:29               ` Eric Dumazet
2005-07-11 14:00                 ` Davide Libenzi
2005-07-11 15:20                   ` Eric Dumazet
2005-04-18  5:00       ` [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7 David S. Miller
2005-04-18  6:12     ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18  6:35       ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-18  6:48         ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 10:03         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-04-18  9:10           ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18  7:32       ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18  7:56         ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18  8:37           ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18  8:59             ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18  9:16           ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-18  9:25             ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 11:30               ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-18 12:52                 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 14:06                   ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-19  2:14                     ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-19  4:27                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-19  5:19                         ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-19  5:52                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20  4:18                             ` Takashi Ikebe [this message]
2005-04-20  5:43                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20  7:35                                 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20  7:50                                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20  7:57                                     ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20  8:26                                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20  8:45                                         ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20  8:51                                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 11:19                                           ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-20 15:06                                             ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-20  8:34                                       ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2005-04-19  5:57                           ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 14:28               ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-20 13:10               ` Ralf Baechle
2005-04-20 15:08                 ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-23 16:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-25  2:11   ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-25  2:48     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-25 10:39       ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-25 11:15         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-25 15:09         ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-25 15:54         ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-25 16:36         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-04-26  1:34           ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-26  2:15             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-26  9:36             ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26 13:05             ` Andi Kleen
     [not found] <3Uv7B-5lv-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <3UvKd-5RT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <3Uw3y-65a-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <3UwmX-6gm-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <3UwwG-6lY-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <3UwGk-6Cv-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <3Uxj2-6YL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-04-18 10:59             ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4265D80F.6030007@lab.ntt.co.jp \
    --to=ikebe.takashi@lab.ntt.co.jp \
    --cc=cw@f00f.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=pj@sgi.com \
    --cc=riel@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox