From: Takashi Ikebe <ikebe.takashi@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:11:16 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <426C51C4.9040902@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1y8b9xyaw.fsf@muc.de>
Hello,
Andi Kleen wrote:
>Takashi Ikebe <ikebe.takashi@lab.ntt.co.jp> writes:
>
>
>
>>The patch was over 50k, so I separate it to each architecture and in line..
>>
>>This patch add function called "Live patching" which is defined on
>>OSDL's carrier grade linux requiremnt definition to linux 2.6.11.7 kernel.
>>The live patching allows process to patch on-line (without restarting
>>process) on i386 and x86_64 architectures, by overwriting jump assembly
>>code on entry point of functions which you want to fix, to patched
>>functions.
>>
>>
>
>How exactly is this different from ptrace?
>Seems just like a ptrace memcpy extension
>Is the patching really that time critical that you cant do it
>with normal ptrace?
>
>
Only few patch modules are not so critical, however sometimes large
number of patches are applied at one time. In that case, time is very
critical with normal ptrace. As you know, normal ptrace need to target
process STOP whenever change the memory/registers.
Our approach is "do not stop the target process's execution as possible
as", because the target process can provide service during patch on SMP
machine (do not want to stop service due to patch).
If we load hundreds of patch modules at one time, I think it will goes
quite time critical..
>>+ if(((current->uid != tsk->euid) ||
>>+ (current->uid != tsk->suid) ||
>>+ (current->uid != tsk->uid) ||
>>+ (current->gid != tsk->egid) ||
>>+ (current->gid != tsk->sgid) ||
>>+ (current->gid != tsk->gid)) && !capable(CAP_SYS_PANNUS)) {
>>+ // invalid user in sys_accesspvm
>>+ return -EPERM;
>>+ }
>>+> + p = vmalloc(len);
>>
>>
>
>This needs a limit.
>
>
Thank you, we'll fix this soon.
>annus-x86_64/arch/x86_64/kernel/entry.S
>
>
>>--- linux-2.6.11.7-vanilla/arch/x86_64/kernel/entry.S 2005-04-08 03:57:30.000000000 +0900
>>+++ linux-2.6.11.7-pannus-x86_64/arch/x86_64/kernel/entry.S 2005-04-18 10:45:47.000000000 +0900
>>@@ -214,6 +214,8 @@ sysret_check:
>> /* Handle reschedules */
>> /* edx: work, edi: workmask */
>> sysret_careful:
>>+ cmpl $0,threadinfo_inipending(%rcx)
>>+ jne sysret_init
>>
>>
>
>Put the check into the normal notify_resume work mask, not adding
>a separate check into this critical fast path.
>
>
OK, we'll fix this soon.
>> CFI_ENDPROC
>>
>> /*
>>+ * In the case restorer calls rt_handlereturn, collect and store registers,
>>+ * and call rt_handlereturn with stored register struct.
>>+ */
>>+ENTRY(stub_rt_handlereturn)
>>
>>
>
>This seems quite pointless since ptrace and can change all registers
>in a child.
>
>
Well, this can change as you said, but I think, this makes target
process stopping time increase.
Because, to control target process's (patch module's) initialization,
the command process should know the target process's status and then
stop with ptrace.
Currently rt_handlereturn works on target process's context like signal
handler return, so, I think there is minimum time loss on target process.
If command process controls the target process's initialization, this
seems target process's stopping time increasing.
Well, may be our idea is wrong, please tell us.
Thank you your advice!
>Didnt review more.
>
>-Andi
>
>
--
Takashi Ikebe
NTT Network Service Systems Laboratories
9-11, Midori-Cho 3-Chome Musashino-Shi,
Tokyo 180-8585 Japan
Tel : +81 422 59 4246, Fax : +81 422 60 4012
e-mail : ikebe.takashi@lab.ntt.co.jp
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-18 3:19 [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7 Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 4:07 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 4:19 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 4:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-18 4:55 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-04-18 5:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2005-04-18 5:41 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-07-11 7:18 ` [PATCH] eventpoll : Suppress a short lived lock from struct file Eric Dumazet
2005-07-11 8:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-11 9:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-07-11 14:00 ` Davide Libenzi
2005-07-11 15:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-04-18 5:00 ` [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7 David S. Miller
2005-04-18 6:12 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 6:35 ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-18 6:48 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 10:03 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-04-18 9:10 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 7:32 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 7:56 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 8:37 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 8:59 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 9:16 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-18 9:25 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-18 11:30 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-18 12:52 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 14:06 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-19 2:14 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-19 4:27 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-19 5:19 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-19 5:52 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 4:18 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20 5:43 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 7:35 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20 7:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 7:57 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20 8:26 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 8:45 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-20 8:51 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 11:19 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-20 15:06 ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-20 8:34 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2005-04-19 5:57 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-18 14:28 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-20 13:10 ` Ralf Baechle
2005-04-20 15:08 ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-23 16:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-25 2:11 ` Takashi Ikebe [this message]
2005-04-25 2:48 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-25 10:39 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-25 11:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-25 15:09 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-25 15:54 ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-25 16:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-04-26 1:34 ` Takashi Ikebe
2005-04-26 2:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-04-26 9:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26 13:05 ` Andi Kleen
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2005-04-18 10:59 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
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