From: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
andrew.patterson@hp.com, Eric.Moore@lsil.com, mike.miller@hp.com,
dougg@torque.net, Madhuresh_Nagshain@adaptec.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] SAS domain layout for Linux sysfs
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:06:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <426D1572.70508@adaptec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050424111908.GA23010@infradead.org>
On 04/24/05 07:19, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>
> This is contrary to any sysfs topology I know about, especially any
> existing transport class (SPI, FC, iSCSI).
This RFC is about SAS.
> We only ever care about what's seen from a HA,
Imagine you could connect to the same device via two
different PCI controllers on the same host.
> e.g. if you have muliple SPI cards that are
> on a single parallel bus you'll have the same bus represented twice,
> similarly if you have two fibre channel HBAs connected to the same
> SAN you'll have the SAN topology duplicated in both sub-topologies.
Hmm, this proposal is for SAS only, Christoph.
If you have multiple SAS host adapters connected to the same
SAS domain, the _path_ they connect to a SAS device may be _different_.
But what is the same is the SAS domain (topology) itself *regardless of
how you connect to it.*
In order to eliminate duplication of sysfs entries (directories
and files) to describe the same SAS device, we split up the
representation into a "flat" directory with just a bunch
of SAS devices, this is /sys/bus/sas/. And the way you _connect_
to those SAS devices is represented in sys/class/sas_ha/.
See this (new) picture:
| |
+-------+ | |
|ha0 [] =--|-----------. |
+---||||+ | \ +-----+ |
| `-= ex2 =--|--> ta0
| | =--|--> in2
| .-= =--|--> ta2
+-------+ | +-----+ / +-----+ |
|ha1 [] =--|--= ex1 =--' |
+---||||+ | +-----+ |
| |
Host domain| Sysfs SAS domain only | Both domains
Anything *but* "Host domain" is "out there" and *doesn't
change* regardless of how you connect to it.
What changes is *how you connect* to to SAS devices from
your host (the host domain).
In effect ta0, in2, ta2, ex1, ex2 are represented only *once*,
in /sys/bus/sas/. But the way your host adapter connects to
them is described in /sys/class/sas_ha/, with the appropriate
symbolic links as described in the RFC.
Luben
> This matches the internal data structure of the scsi subsystem and
> the transport class, e.g. we have a scsi_device object for every lun
> that's seen from a hba, linked to the HBAs Scsi_Host object and not
> one shared by multiple HBAs. Dito for fibre channel remote ports.
>
>
> One note to this proposal: it probably doesn't make a lot of sense to
> try to flesh out the sysfs topology before doing the kernel internal
> object model as the former pretty much follows the latter.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-25 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-13 15:22 [RFC] SAS domain layout for Linux sysfs Luben Tuikov
2005-04-24 11:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-25 16:06 ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
2005-04-25 16:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-25 17:21 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-25 18:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-26 15:18 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-27 12:34 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-04-27 15:38 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-29 10:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-02 14:35 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-29 10:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-02 14:30 ` Luben Tuikov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-27 14:54 Martin Peschke3
2005-04-27 15:52 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-27 18:57 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-01 21:49 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-06-02 14:32 Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2005-06-02 14:57 ` Luben Tuikov
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