From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>, Liu Qi <liuqi@ict.ac.cn>,
"'high-res-timers-discourse@lists.sourceforge.net'"
<high-res-timers-discourse@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Help with the high res timers
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:36:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4279323F.1000304@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42791160.7090905@nortel.com>
Chris Friesen wrote:
> Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
>
>> If I understand your point correctly, I think this is achieved by
>> TIMERINTERVAL_BITS in my patch (not to claim my patch is function, but
>> conceptually). No matter what you actually request, the best you can do
>> is 2^TIMERINTERVAL_BITS nanoseconds, and usually worse because the
>> tick-rate and timerinterval length do not necessarily line up.
>
>
> My point is simply that the timer for the next interval should start at
> the time the timer expires, not the time that userspace picks up the
> prior expiration. Throttling the timer rate should be done at the time
> of timer request rather than timer expiry.
>
> If I have usec-accuracy in the timer subsystem, I should be able to set
> a timer with an interval of 9.999ms and have it remain accurate over
> time (subject to scheduler jitter, of course). N timer intervals later
> my timer should expire at (original_time + N*9.999ms + jitter). In this
> case the error is roughly constant with time.
>
> If the timer doesn't start counting the next interval until the user
> detects expiry, I'm going to get some non-zero addition to *each*
> interval such that my timers will not remain accurate over long periods
> of time. In this case N timer intervals later my timer will expire at
> (original_time + N*(9.999ms + jitter)) which is a very different thing.
> Since jitter will always be positive, the error increases with time.
You can, and we do in the main line kernel, keep this accuracy even with missed
timer expiries. When a timer is restarted, the actual requested expire time is
recalculated. It is adjusted ONLY by the requested repeat time until it results
in a time that has yet to come and the number of repeat times it takes is logged
in the overrun count for user examination.
>
> Chris
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George Anzinger george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
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2005-05-04 17:10 ` Help with the high res timers George Anzinger
2005-05-04 17:44 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-04 17:51 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-05-04 18:16 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-04 20:36 ` George Anzinger [this message]
2005-05-04 20:31 ` George Anzinger
2005-05-04 18:14 ` Darren Hart
2005-05-04 21:46 ` George Anzinger
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2005-05-04 17:46 ` George Anzinger
2005-05-04 22:13 ` john stultz
2005-05-04 22:48 ` George Anzinger
2005-05-04 23:27 ` john stultz
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