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From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
To: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Sync option destroys flash!
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:34:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42857FCB.80606@shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43UT5-jT-3@gated-at.bofh.it>

linux@horizon.com wrote:
> I would have though so, but I can say from personal experience that
> SanDisk brand CF cards respond to losing power during a write by producing
> a bad sector.  I had assumed that a sensible implementation would take
> advantage of the out-of-place writing by doing a two-phase commit at
> write time, so writes would be atomic.
> 
> Does anyone know of a CF manufacturer that *does* guarantee atomic writes?
> Obviously, if power is lost during a write, it's not clear whether
> I'll get the old or the new contents, but I want one or ther other and
> not -EIO.
> 
> Given that SanDisk first developed the CompactFlash card, you'd think they'd
> be a fairly reputable brand...

I think it would be a fair bit of work to guarantee this, unless you add 
enough capacitive energy storage or something onboard to ensure that the 
write can complete even if power is lost. Some hard drives have the same 
problem, actually, where a bad sector can be produced if it was being 
written at the time power was lost.

-- 
Robert Hancock      Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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       reply	other threads:[~2005-05-14  4:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <43UT5-jT-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-14  4:34 ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2005-05-18 11:13 Sync option destroys flash! linux
2005-05-18 12:01 ` Richard B. Johnson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-14  2:43 linux
2005-05-17 13:36 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-17 20:31   ` linux
2005-05-17 20:43     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-18 13:37     ` Lennart Sorensen
     [not found] <43Ldl-NM-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <43M9s-1B8-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <43MCx-1UF-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <43MVz-2hL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-13 23:59       ` Robert Hancock
2005-05-13 16:20 Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:17 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 17:53   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:09     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:21       ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:26         ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:53           ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:58   ` Zan Lynx
2005-05-13 18:13     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:40 ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 19:10   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 22:00     ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 22:22       ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-13 23:24         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-13 23:01       ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-05-13 23:27         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-14 10:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-05-14  1:05   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-17 13:30     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 21:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-13 22:43   ` Alan Cox
2005-05-15 19:00 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-16  0:23   ` Mark Lord
2005-05-16  9:29     ` David Woodhouse
2005-05-16 16:42       ` Pavel Machek
2005-05-16 13:01     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-16 23:18   ` Helge Hafting
2005-05-18  7:03     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-17  7:59 ` Colin Leroy

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