From: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
To: patrakov@ums.usu.ru, 7eggert@gmx.de
Cc: schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de, mrmacman_g4@mac.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, 7eggert@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:44:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4296FA0F.nail3N041ODQE@burner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505261651220.3407@be1.lrz>
Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 May 2005, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> > Bodo Eggert wrote:
>
> > >So we can
> > >
> > >1) give up and let any application with write access destroy the hardware
>
> > That won't be a problem if all apps with write access are running as
> > root or setuid and thus the list of them is well-controlled by root.
>
> And if all these apps are guaranteed to have no buffer-overflow or other
> exploits.
If you cleanly separate the ability to send SCSI commands from the ability
to write to a UNIX block or raw devive, you only need to check the programs
that explicitly need to send SCSI commands.
In former times, Linux did have this kind of clean separation between
e.g. /dev/sd0 and /dev/sg0. Just go back to the clean old model...
This could easily be done: Remove SG_IO from the list of ioctl functions
supported by drivers like /dev/sd0 and /dev/hda fix the bugs in ide_scsi.
Jörg
--
EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-27 10:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <4847F-8q-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <E1Db3zm-0004vF-9j@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-25 22:46 ` OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 23:31 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 3:45 ` [OT] " Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-05-26 5:06 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505261335440.2939@be1.lrz>
2005-05-26 12:33 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505261651220.3407@be1.lrz>
2005-05-27 10:44 ` Joerg Schilling [this message]
2005-05-26 19:20 ` OT] " Bill Davidsen
2005-05-26 21:26 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 23:30 ` Matthias Andree
2005-05-27 9:39 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-27 11:09 ` Wakko Warner
2005-05-27 14:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-30 9:07 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-30 10:47 ` Markus Plail
2005-05-30 22:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-30 23:20 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-30 23:35 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-31 12:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-31 12:47 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505260205390.19389@be1.lrz>
2005-05-27 10:03 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505271633200.3055@be1.lrz>
2005-05-30 9:36 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505301326450.2363@be1.lrz>
2005-05-31 10:57 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 13:15 Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 23:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 10:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-26 12:47 ` [OT] " Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-05-27 10:31 ` Joerg Schilling
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-20 17:45 Patrick McFarland
2005-05-20 17:02 ` jmerkey
2005-05-20 18:24 ` Markus Plail
2005-05-20 18:34 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
2005-05-20 18:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-20 23:20 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-21 7:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-05-21 11:25 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-05-21 11:33 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-22 18:24 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-05-21 11:41 ` André Tomt
2005-05-21 23:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-05-22 0:27 ` Andre Tomt
2005-05-22 14:17 ` Matthias Andree
2005-05-21 16:39 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-21 23:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-05-22 1:22 ` Andrew Haninger
2005-05-22 4:50 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-05-22 14:39 ` Matthias Andree
2005-05-22 20:40 ` Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
2005-05-22 15:54 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-05-23 13:17 ` Nix
2005-05-23 14:35 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-23 14:58 ` Nix
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=4296FA0F.nail3N041ODQE@burner \
--to=schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de \
--cc=7eggert@gmx.de \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mrmacman_g4@mac.com \
--cc=patrakov@ums.usu.ru \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox