From: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Linas Vepstas <linas@austin.ibm.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
long <tlnguyen@snoqualmie.dp.intel.com>,
linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
linuxppc64-dev <linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] IOCHK interface for I/O error handling/detecting
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:32:05 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42A96C25.9050903@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050609173433.GE24611@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:39:11PM +0900, Hidetoshi Seto wrote:
>
>>Reflecting every comments, I brushed up my patch for generic part.
>>So today I'll post it again, and also post "ia64 part", which
>>surely implements ia64-arch specific error checking. I think
>>latter will be a sample of basic implement for other arch.
>
> I think this is the wrong way to go about it. For PCI Express, we
> have a defined cross-architecture standard which tells us exactly how
> all future PCIe devices will behave in the face of errors. For PCI and
> PCI-X, we have a lot of legacy systems, each of which implements error
> checking and recovery in a somewhat eclectic way.
>
> So, IMO, any implementation of PCI error recovery should start by
> implementing the PCI Express AER mechanisms and then each architecture can
> look at extending that scheme to fit their own legacy hardware systems.
> That way we have a clean implementation for the future rather than being
> tied to any one manufacturer or architecture's quirks.
>
> Also, we can evaluate it based on looking at what the standard says,
> rather than all trying to wrap our brains around the idiosyncracies of
> a given platform ;-)
All right, please take it a example of approach from legacy-side.
Already there are good working group, includes Linas, BenH, and Long.
They are also implementing some PCI error recovery codes (currently
setting home to ppc64), and I know their wonderful works are more PCI
Express friendly than my mysterious ia64 works :-)
However, I also know that it doesn't mean my works were useless.
Since there is a notable difference between their asynchronous error
recovery and my synchronous error detecting, both could live in
coexistence with each other.
How cooperate with is interesting coming agenda, I think.
Thanks,
H.Seto
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-10 10:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-09 12:39 [PATCH 00/10] IOCHK interface for I/O error handling/detecting Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 12:48 ` [PATCH 01/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 16:53 ` Greg KH
2005-06-10 10:29 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 12:50 ` [PATCH 02/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 12:51 ` [PATCH 03/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 16:57 ` Greg KH
2005-06-10 10:31 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 17:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-06-10 10:31 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 12:53 ` [PATCH 04/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 16:57 ` Greg KH
2005-06-09 12:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 12:56 ` [PATCH 06/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 12:58 ` [PATCH 07/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 17:40 ` David Mosberger
2005-06-10 10:29 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-10 17:25 ` David Mosberger
2005-06-13 6:54 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 13:00 ` [PATCH 08/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 13:02 ` [PATCH 09/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 13:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] " Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 16:59 ` [PATCH 00/10] " Greg KH
2005-06-09 17:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-06-09 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-10 10:31 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-10 10:30 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-06-09 17:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-06-10 10:32 ` Hidetoshi Seto [this message]
2005-06-10 23:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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