From: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sdietrich@mvista.com,
Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] local_irq_disable removal
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 01:16:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42ABC523.1020205@opersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0506112151090.24837-100000@dhcp153.mvista.com>
Daniel Walker wrote:
> My reasoning is that Linux doesn't run in ring 0 . That to me makes linux
> and ADEOS two different entities. That's my way of looking at it.
[snip]
> I haven't looked at the code, I would like to . I have read about
> the ADEOS implementation .
*WARNING*WARNING*WARNING*WARNING*WARNING*WARNING*WARNING*WARNING*
ok, now that I've got the attention of anyone reading this post,
here goes:
The paper entitled "Adaptive Domain Environment for Operating
Systems", which I published in February 2001 presents a design
*PLAN*. The actual implementation is based on this paper, but
differs *SIGNIFICANTLY* from it. Hence, read the paper to
understand how the ipipe works *ONLY*. All this stuff about
ring 0 / ring 1 was *NEVER* implemented.
To understand what's in the current *PATCH*, please read this
instead:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=102309348817485&w=2
Here's the relevant passage:
> The complete Adeos approach has been thoroughly documented in a whitepaper
> published more than a year ago entitled "Adaptive Domain Environment
> for Operating Systems" and available here: http://www.opersys.com/adeos
> The current implementation is slightly different. Mainly, we do not
> implement the functionality to move Linux out of ring 0. Although of
> interest, this approach is not very portable.
>
> Instead, our patch taps right into Linux's main source of control
> over the hardware, the interrupt dispatching code, and inserts an
> interrupt pipeline which can then serve all the nanokernel's clients,
> including Linux.
Again, Adeos does not play *ANY* ring tricks. It just hooks
onto the kernel's *EXISTING* cli/sti/int-delivery mechanisms
using a *PATCH*.
Hope this helps dissipate some misconceptions about what Adeos
is *TODAY*.
P.S.: Sorry Daniel, none of the above emphasis is directed
personally towards you. I just know from talking to quite a
few people that my original paper *CONTINUES* to *MISLEAD*
people about what Adeos currently is. So I just thought I'd
make it clear at this point for those interested.
Karim
--
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Pushing Embedded and Real-Time Linux Systems Beyond the Limits
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-12 5:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-08 7:08 [PATCH] local_irq_disable removal Daniel Walker
2005-06-08 11:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-08 20:33 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-09 11:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-10 23:37 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 0:20 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 13:13 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 13:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 14:32 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 16:36 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 17:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-11 18:40 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-12 0:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-12 0:15 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-12 0:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-12 0:24 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 19:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 19:34 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 19:44 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 19:53 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 20:23 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 22:59 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 5:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-13 6:20 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 12:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-11 20:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 20:51 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 23:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-11 23:50 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 0:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-12 0:09 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-12 0:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-12 1:05 ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-13 12:03 ` Paulo Marques
2005-06-13 12:19 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-12 4:50 ` cutaway
2005-06-12 6:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-12 11:15 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-12 11:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-13 7:01 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 7:53 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-13 8:05 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 8:54 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-13 9:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-12 15:28 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 4:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-12 4:32 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 4:56 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-12 4:55 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 5:16 ` Karim Yaghmour [this message]
2005-06-12 5:14 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 5:27 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-12 15:27 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-06-12 15:46 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 19:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-12 17:02 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-13 7:08 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 7:44 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-13 7:53 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-13 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 16:41 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 17:16 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 19:29 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 20:02 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 16:19 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 15:00 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 16:45 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 16:53 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 17:13 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 17:22 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 17:25 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 17:29 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 17:30 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 17:55 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 16:28 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 16:46 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 16:09 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 16:31 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 16:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-11 22:44 ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-06-12 6:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-12 9:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-13 4:39 ` [RT] " Steven Rostedt
2005-06-16 5:35 ` Lee Revell
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