From: Paulo Marques <pmarques@grupopie.com>
To: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] local_irq_disable removal
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:03:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42AD761C.6060709@grupopie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200506112105.11067.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Gene Heskett wrote:
> [...]
> Lets add the operation of 4 or more stepper motors in real time for
> smaller milling machines. There, the constraints are more related to
> maintaining a steady flow of step/direction data at high enough
> speeds to make a stepper, with 8 microsteps per step, and 240 steps
> per revolution, run smoothly at speeds up to say 20 kilohertz, or 50
> microseconds per step, maintaining that 50 microseconds plus or minus
> not more than 5 microseconds else the motors will start sounding
> ragged and stuttering.
This is the kind of problem that is screaming "give me dedicated
hardware!". Why would one spend $500+ on a PC to do the work of a $2
microcontroller (and possibly throw in an FPGA to the mix)?. Not to
mention that the microcontroller/FPGA would maintain 50us +/- 0us
instead of the 50 +/- 5 you've mentioned.
The same goes for the "hand under the saw". A simple
transistor/triac/whatever and a logic circuit would stop the saw, we
don't need any real time OS for that (and I would certainly trust the
logic circuit more than any real time OS :).
IMHO, the kind of problems where real time OS's are useful are the kind
that require computational power while having real-time constraints.
Like the sound effects processor for the guitar that Lee Revell already
mentioned or controlling an airplane in flight that has to measure a lot
of sensors, do some state space calculations with some not-so-small
matrices (together with Kalman filtering, etc.) and move the actuators.
--
Paulo Marques - www.grupopie.com
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be
made in a very narrow field.
Niels Bohr (1885 - 1962)
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-08 7:08 [PATCH] local_irq_disable removal Daniel Walker
2005-06-08 11:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-08 20:33 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-09 11:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-10 23:37 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 0:20 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 13:13 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 13:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 14:32 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 16:36 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 17:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-11 18:40 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-12 0:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-12 0:15 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-12 0:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-12 0:24 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 19:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 19:34 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 19:44 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 19:53 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 20:23 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 22:59 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 5:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-13 6:20 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 12:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-11 20:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 20:51 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 23:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-11 23:50 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 0:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-12 0:09 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-12 0:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-12 1:05 ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-13 12:03 ` Paulo Marques [this message]
2005-06-13 12:19 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-12 4:50 ` cutaway
2005-06-12 6:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-12 11:15 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-12 11:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-13 7:01 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 7:53 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-13 8:05 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 8:54 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-13 9:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-12 15:28 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 4:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-12 4:32 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 4:56 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-12 4:55 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 5:16 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-12 5:14 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 5:27 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-12 15:27 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-06-12 15:46 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-12 19:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-12 17:02 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-13 7:08 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 7:44 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-13 7:53 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-13 7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-13 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 16:41 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 17:16 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 19:29 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 20:02 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 16:19 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-11 15:00 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 16:45 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-11 16:53 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 17:13 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 17:22 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 17:25 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 17:29 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 17:30 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 17:55 ` Mika Penttilä
2005-06-11 16:28 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 16:46 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 16:09 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-11 16:31 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-11 16:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-11 22:44 ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-06-12 6:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-12 9:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-13 4:39 ` [RT] " Steven Rostedt
2005-06-16 5:35 ` Lee Revell
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