From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261571AbVFMWzI (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:55:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261183AbVFMWxL (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:53:11 -0400 Received: from opersys.com ([64.40.108.71]:527 "EHLO www.opersys.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261616AbVFMWpk (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:45:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE0EF8.1090509@opersys.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:55:52 -0400 From: Karim Yaghmour Reply-To: karim@opersys.com Organization: Opersys inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040805 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, fr, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bill Huey (hui)" CC: dwalker@mvista.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com, Andrea Arcangeli , Lee Revell , Tim Bird , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, pmarques@grupopie.com, bruce@andrew.cmu.edu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ak@muc.de, sdietrich@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org Subject: Re: Attempted summary of "RT patch acceptance" thread References: <42ACE2D3.9080106@opersys.com> <20050613144022.GA1305@us.ibm.com> <42ADE334.4030002@opersys.com> <1118693033.2725.21.camel@dhcp153.mvista.com> <42ADEC0E.4020907@opersys.com> <1118694495.2725.32.camel@dhcp153.mvista.com> <42AE01EA.10905@opersys.com> <42AE04AE.8070107@opersys.com> <20050613221810.GA820@nietzsche.lynx.com> <42AE0875.8010001@opersys.com> <20050613222909.GA880@nietzsche.lynx.com> In-Reply-To: <20050613222909.GA880@nietzsche.lynx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Bill Huey (hui) wrote: > I'm tell'n you that there is no way that this patch is going to > die. The commercial vendors and the general community is going > use this once they figure out what it can do and there will be > no stopping it. You can bet on some body extremity that this > will happen. It's inevitable and ultimately the future of Linux > whether they like it or not. Please cool down. This is a rather extreme position. The fact of the matter is that it is the community that is driving Linux, not the vendors. If the community decides something isn't going in, there isn't much any company can do about it, except maintain it outside of Linux for years on end, which economically speaking is just not feasible. That's why inclusion is so important. Bare in mind that I wasn't even talking about whether or not PREEMPT_RT was making it in. I was only talking about the logistics of inclusion of any RT extension. Please people, get a grip, we're just trying to figure out the best way to do this stuff. Karim -- Author, Speaker, Developer, Consultant Pushing Embedded and Real-Time Linux Systems Beyond the Limits http://www.opersys.com || karim@opersys.com || 1-866-677-4546