From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261377AbVFTQXL (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:23:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261384AbVFTQWY (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:22:24 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com ([195.54.107.73]:42995 "EHLO mxfep02.bredband.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261377AbVFTQUL (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:20:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42B6EDE3.3040200@stesmi.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:25:07 +0200 From: Stefan Smietanowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Denis Vlasenko CC: Nick Warne , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de, Jeff Garzik Subject: Re: 2.6.12 udev hangs at boot References: <200506181332.25287.nick@linicks.net> <200506201304.10741.vda@ilport.com.ua> <42B697B4.8060109@stesmi.com> <200506201413.22471.vda@ilport.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <200506201413.22471.vda@ilport.com.ua> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira Milter 1.0.7; VAE 6.29.0.5; VDF 6.29.0.100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Denis. >>>After all, udev is tied to /sys layout which changes with kernel >>>and also udev is vital for properly functioning boot process >> >>Not if you use a static /dev. > > > Static /dev kind of defeats the purpose of udev. > I do not want to go back to the days when I had tons of > /dev/{h,s}d{a,b,c,d,e,f}{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9} for every > IDE and SCSI block device possible. Same for /dev/tty*. > I want them appear on the fly, if/when hardware is present. Of course it defeats the purpose of udev. That's not what I was answering however. It was the blanket statement that "udev is vital for properly functioning boot process" as if udev was necessary. udev (for me) is a very fine tool that serves very many purposes, however it is not vital. // Stefan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCtu3jBrn2kJu9P78RAghtAJwN9Nv5jYuVqchP66I2fM3khizUNACfWfjI bwUjbisvDWk6qCCaC13u1no= =z8Tr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----