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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX <flx@namesys.com>
Cc: Alexander Zarochentcev <zam@namesys.com>,
	vs <vs@thebsh.namesys.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:38:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42B8C0FF.2010800@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050621195642.GD14251@wotan.suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:

>On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:44:55AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
>  
>
>>vs and zam, please comment on what we get from our profiler and spinlock
>>debugger that the standard tools don't supply.  I am sure you have a
>>reason, but now is the time to articulate it.
>>
>>We would like to keep the disabled code in there until we have a chance
>>to prove (or fail to prove) that cycle detection can be resolved
>>effectively, and then with a solution in hand argue its merits.
>>    
>>
>
>How about the review of your code base? Has reiser4 ever been
>fully reviewed by people outside your group? 
>
>Normally full review is a requirement for merging.
>  
>
V4 has a mailing list, and a large number of testers who read the code
and comment on it.   V4 has been reviewed and tested much more than V3
was before merging.   Given that we sent it in quite some time ago, your
suggestion that an additional review by unspecified additional others be
a requirement for merging seems untimely.  Do you see my point of view
on this?

I would however enjoy receiving coding suggestions at ANY time.  We
don't get as much of that as I would like.   I would in particular love
to have you Andi Kleen do a full review of V4 if you could be that
generous with your time, as I liked much of the advice you gave us on V3. 

Unspecified others doing a review, well, who knows, I will surely take
the time to consider what is said by them though..... 

I would prefer to not get reviews from authors of other filesystems who
prefer their own code, skim through our code without taking the time to
grok our philosophy and approach in depth, and then complain that our
code is different from what they chose to write, and think that our
changing to be like them should be mandated.  I will not name names here....

Some of the suggestions on our mailing list are great, some reflect a
lack of 5 years working with our code, perhaps I should feed our mailing
list into the linux kernel mailing list so that people on the kernel
mailing list are more aware that we exist and are active?

>-Andi
>
>
>  
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-22  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20050620235458.5b437274.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-06-21 11:14 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 18:44   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 19:56     ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 20:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-22  1:38       ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-06-22  1:57         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22  1:57         ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22  2:55           ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22  3:01             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22  8:09               ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22  8:24                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  6:22         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-23  7:42           ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23  8:08             ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-23 13:10               ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 16:15             ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-23 16:23               ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-23 19:56                 ` Ross Biro
2005-06-23 17:17               ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 21:18                 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 18:37           ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-06-23 18:43             ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23 19:29               ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-06-23 19:45                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 19:32               ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-25 16:46                 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-25 19:23                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 21:08                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-26  1:03                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 23:54                     ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26 10:03                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-27  7:24                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-27  7:28                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27  7:49                       ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27  8:19                         ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-27  8:20                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 12:27                           ` [PATCH] verbose BUG_ON reporting Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 12:38                             ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 12:45                               ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 12:40                             ` [PATCH] " Jörn Engel
2005-06-23 19:24             ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Hans Reiser
2005-06-24  1:13             ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26  0:45               ` Christian Trefzer
2005-06-26  1:13                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-26  2:23                   ` Christian Trefzer
     [not found] ` <42B831B4.9020603@pobox.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <42B87318.80607@namesys.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20050621202448.GB30182@infradead.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <42B8B9EE.7020002@namesys.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <42B8BB5E.8090008@pobox.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-06-22  1:26           ` reiser4 plugins Andi Kleen
2005-06-22  2:47             ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22  3:16               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-22 15:29               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 13:20 -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Ian Pratt
2005-06-23 13:37 ` Mark Williamson
     [not found] <4hNoW-1yo-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <4hT1h-5V0-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <4hXHv-1br-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-06-22 14:40     ` Bodo Eggert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-21  6:54 Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 12:01 ` Andrey Panin
2005-06-21 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 13:07   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22 10:50     ` Erik Slagter
2005-06-21 12:43 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-21 12:58 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-21 14:08 ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 19:54   ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:00     ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 15:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 15:39   ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:22     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 19:38       ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:44         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:02         ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-21 20:06           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:07             ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 20:10               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:15                 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-22  5:53                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-06-21 22:54             ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 20:52           ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-21 22:45       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 23:30         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 23:39           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22  6:19             ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 15:43   ` Matt Porter
2005-06-21 19:41   ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 20:05   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 20:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-21 20:22   ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:56     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:04       ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 21:23         ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:38         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22  6:33         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-21 21:28     ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 23:32       ` Chris Wright
2005-06-23 13:04         ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 16:53     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-22 20:52       ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23  2:14         ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-24  4:06     ` Paul Jackson
2005-06-24  4:54       ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 15:50 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-21 18:56   ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-22 18:00     ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-21 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:37     ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22  5:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27  9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 14:25   ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-27 19:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:44       ` Joel Becker
2005-06-27 20:26         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 20:37   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-30 18:30     ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-27 20:19 ` Christoph Hellwig

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