From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Alexander Lyamin aka FLX <flx@namesys.com>,
Alexander Zarochentcev <zam@namesys.com>,
vs <vs@thebsh.namesys.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:57:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42B8C578.2090705@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42B8C0FF.2010800@namesys.com>
Hans Reiser wrote:
> V4 has a mailing list, and a large number of testers who read the code
> and comment on it. V4 has been reviewed and tested much more than V3
> was before merging. Given that we sent it in quite some time ago, your
> suggestion that an additional review by unspecified additional others be
> a requirement for merging seems untimely. Do you see my point of view
> on this?
>
> I would however enjoy receiving coding suggestions at ANY time. We
> don't get as much of that as I would like. I would in particular love
> to have you Andi Kleen do a full review of V4 if you could be that
> generous with your time, as I liked much of the advice you gave us on V3.
>
> Unspecified others doing a review, well, who knows, I will surely take
> the time to consider what is said by them though.....
>
> I would prefer to not get reviews from authors of other filesystems who
> prefer their own code, skim through our code without taking the time to
> grok our philosophy and approach in depth, and then complain that our
> code is different from what they chose to write, and think that our
> changing to be like them should be mandated. I will not name names here....
The Linux system isn't the greatest in the world, but here's reality:
when a merge is imminent, a lot more attention is paid.
Andrew regularly uses this knowledge of human psychology to his (and
Linux's) benefit :)
The MAJOR downside is that merge-stopping issues are sometimes ignored
until an upstream merge is imminent.
If you want to get your code merged, you gotta work with the system, and
LISTEN to the feedback.
Jeff, who doesn't have a filesystem axe to grind
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-22 1:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20050620235458.5b437274.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-06-21 11:14 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 18:44 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 19:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 20:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-22 1:38 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 1:57 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-06-22 1:57 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 2:55 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 3:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 8:09 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 8:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23 6:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-23 7:42 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 8:08 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-23 13:10 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 16:15 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-23 16:23 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-23 19:56 ` Ross Biro
2005-06-23 17:17 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 21:18 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 18:37 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-06-23 18:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23 19:29 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-06-23 19:45 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 19:32 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-25 16:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-25 19:23 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 21:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-26 1:03 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 23:54 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26 10:03 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-27 7:24 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-27 7:28 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 7:49 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 8:19 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-27 8:20 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 12:27 ` [PATCH] verbose BUG_ON reporting Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 12:38 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 12:45 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 12:40 ` [PATCH] " Jörn Engel
2005-06-23 19:24 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Hans Reiser
2005-06-24 1:13 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26 0:45 ` Christian Trefzer
2005-06-26 1:13 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-26 2:23 ` Christian Trefzer
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2005-06-22 1:26 ` reiser4 plugins Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 2:47 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 3:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-22 15:29 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 13:20 -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Ian Pratt
2005-06-23 13:37 ` Mark Williamson
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2005-06-22 14:40 ` Bodo Eggert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-21 6:54 Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 12:01 ` Andrey Panin
2005-06-21 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 13:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22 10:50 ` Erik Slagter
2005-06-21 12:43 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-21 12:58 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-21 14:08 ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:00 ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 15:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 15:39 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 19:38 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:02 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-21 20:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:07 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 20:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:15 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-22 5:53 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-06-21 22:54 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 20:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-21 22:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 23:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 23:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 6:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 15:43 ` Matt Porter
2005-06-21 19:41 ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 20:05 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 20:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-21 20:22 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:56 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 21:23 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22 6:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-21 21:28 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 23:32 ` Chris Wright
2005-06-23 13:04 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 16:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-22 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23 2:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-24 4:06 ` Paul Jackson
2005-06-24 4:54 ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 15:50 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-21 18:56 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-22 18:00 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-21 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:37 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 5:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 14:25 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-27 19:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:44 ` Joel Becker
2005-06-27 20:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 20:37 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-30 18:30 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-27 20:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
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