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From: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	Kristian Benoit <kbenoit@opersys.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bhuey@lnxw.com, andrea@suse.de,
	tglx@linutronix.de, pmarques@grupopie.com, bruce@andrew.cmu.edu,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ak@muc.de, sdietrich@mvista.com,
	dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: PREEMPT_RT vs I-PIPE: the numbers, part 2
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:03:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42B9D208.4080305@opersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050622202242.GA17301@elte.hu>


Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>From all the test i've done, 600,000 samples are not enough to trigger 
> the worst-case latency - even with the polling method! Also, your tests 
> dont really load the system, so you have a fundamentally lower chance of 
> seeing worst-case latencies. My tests do a dd test, a flood ping, an 
> LTP-40-copies test, an rtc_wakeup 8192 Hz test and an infinite loop of 
> hackbench test all in parallel, and even in such circumstances and with 
> a polling approach i need above 1 million samples to hit the worst-case 
> path! (which i cannot know for sure to be the worst-case path, but which 
> i'm reasonably confident about, based on the distribution of the 
> latencies and having done tens of millions of samples in overnight 
> tests.) Obviously it's a much bigger constraint on the IRQ subsystem if 
> _all_ interrupt _and_ DMA sources in the system are as active as 
> possible.

Hmm... well, I can't say I'm uninterested. Any chances we can get a
copy of the scripts you use to do the MOAILT (Mother Of All Irq Latency
Tests).

> so ... give the -50-12 -RT tree a try and report back the lpptest 
> results you are getting.

First things first, we want to report back that our setup is validated
before we go onto this one. So we've modified LRTBF to do the busy-wait
thing.

> [ I know the results i am seeing, but i wont 
> post them as a counter-point because i'm obviously biased :-) I'll let 
> people without an axe to grind do the measurements. ]

That's an extra reason for giving us a copy (or pointing us to one) of
the script you use to run your tests :)

Karim
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-22 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-20 17:13 PREEMPT_RT vs I-PIPE: the numbers, part 2 Kristian Benoit
2005-06-20 18:31 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-22 16:00   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 19:29     ` Bill Huey
2005-06-22 20:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 20:39         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 22:04           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 23:03             ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 23:52               ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 23:38             ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 23:57               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-23  0:05               ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-23  0:48                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23  0:06               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-23  0:47                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23  0:55                   ` Bill Huey
2005-06-23  1:09                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23  1:15                       ` Bill Huey
2005-06-23  1:47                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23  0:59                   ` David Lang
2005-06-23  1:22                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23  1:42                       ` David Lang
2005-06-23  2:09                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23  2:15                           ` David Lang
2005-06-23  1:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-23  2:02                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23  3:57                       ` Lee Revell
2005-06-23  4:13                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 20:10       ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 20:15         ` Bill Huey
2005-06-21  1:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-21  2:29   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22  1:19     ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 15:31       ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 15:27         ` Kristian Benoit
2005-06-22 16:27         ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 17:20           ` Kristian Benoit
2005-06-22 17:34             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 17:40               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 18:12                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 18:14                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 19:04                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 18:50             ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 19:04               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 20:17                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 20:22                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 21:03                     ` Karim Yaghmour [this message]
2005-06-22 21:10                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 21:32                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 22:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 23:02                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 21:20                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 19:08               ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 14:48             ` Paulo Marques
2005-06-22 17:58           ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 18:47             ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 19:16               ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 21:23                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 17:17         ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 17:32           ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-29  7:43           ` PREEMPT_RT & threading IRQ 0 Ingo Molnar

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