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From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005@gmx.net>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@telenet.be>,
	Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@pandora.be>,
	netfilter-devel@manty.net, netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ebtables-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, rankincj@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.12: connection tracking broken?
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:02:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42B9FC19.2000604@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050622214920.GA13519@gondor.apana.org.au>

Herbert Xu schrieb:
> 
> Longer term though we should obsolete the ipt_physdev module.  The
> rationale there is that this creates a precedence that we can't
> possibly maintain in a consistent way.  For example, we don't have
> a target that matches by hardware MAC address.  If you wanted to
> do that, you'd hook into the arptables interface rather than deferring
> iptables after the creation of the hardware header.
> 
> This can be done in two stages to minimise pain for people already
> using it:
> 
> 1) We rewrite ipt_physdev to do the lookups necessary to get the output
> physical devices through the bridge layer.  Of course this may not be
> the real output device due to changes in the environment.  So this should
> be accompanied with a warning that users should switch to ebt.
> 
> 2) We remove the iptables deferring since ipt_physdev will no longer need
> it.
> 
> 3) After a set period (say a year or so) we remove ipt_physdev altogether.

For my local setup it is already a minor PITA that there is no tool
combining the functionality of arptables, ebtables and iptables, but
I can cope with the help of marking and ipt_physdev. If that doesn't
work reliably anymore, I'll be stuck.

Wasn't someone working on a unified framework for *tables? IIRC that
would have been pkttables, but Harald(?) said there was not much
code there yet.

Regards,
Carl-Daniel
-- 
http://www.hailfinger.org/

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-23  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-18 12:43 2.6.12: connection tracking broken? Chris Rankin
2005-06-18 14:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-06-18 15:14   ` Tobias DiPasquale
2005-06-18 17:16     ` Chris Rankin
2005-06-20  7:19   ` Harald Welte
2005-06-18 19:25 ` Santiago Garcia Mantinan
2005-06-18 22:12   ` Santiago Garcia Mantinan
2005-06-19 13:05     ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20  0:05       ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-20  0:18         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-20  0:50           ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-20  2:45         ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20  6:39           ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-20 12:15             ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 18:46               ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-20 18:57                 ` Phil Oester
2005-06-20 23:27                   ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 23:22                 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-21  7:19                   ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-21 15:16                     ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-21 20:46                       ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-21 21:23                         ` Chris Wright
2005-06-21 22:32                           ` David S. Miller
2005-06-21 22:34                             ` Chris Wright
2005-06-22  0:26                             ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-22 22:58                               ` Chris Rankin
2005-06-23 17:42                                 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-23 19:49                                   ` David S. Miller
2005-06-24  8:39                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-28 23:07                                       ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22  0:45                         ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-22 21:49                       ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-23  0:02                         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [this message]
2005-06-23  3:31                           ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-23  6:27                           ` [Ebtables-devel] " Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-23  3:26                         ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-23  3:53                           ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-23  6:23                         ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-27  8:32                           ` Harald Welte
2005-06-27 11:46                             ` Patrick McHardy

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