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From: Bill Gatliff <bgat@billgatliff.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] Remove devfs from 2.6.12-git
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:13:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42BA1ADB.6090006@billgatliff.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050622181825.204fbcb7.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew:


>>It breaks a lot of my embedded setups which have read-only storage only
>>and thus need /dev on devfs or tmpfs.
>>    
>>
>
>Well that's quite a problem.  We're certainly causing people such as
>yourself to take on quite a lot of work.  But on the other hand we do want
>the kernel to progress sanely, and that sometimes involves taking things
>out.
>
>I don't have enough info to know whether the world would be a better place
>if we keep devfs, remove devfs or remove devfs even later on.  I don't
>think anyone knows, which is why we're taking this little
>disable-it-and-see-who-shouts approach.
>  
>

I would prefer to keep devfs around as well, but most of my embedded 
systems have enough RAM to put a primitive /dev tree in tmpfs using a 
linuxrc script at boot.  The workarounds for the userland requirements 
of udev are a little less clear to me, but I'm not sure they're 
insurmountable yet for anything except the smallest embedded systems, 
since Busybox appears to have some udev support available now.

I think that devfs and udev appeal to different audiences, hence I don't 
think you can say that the "world will be a better place" with one or 
the other.  It would be nice to find a way to have the two coexist 
peacefully...

Case in point.  I'm going to udev reluctantly; all my embedded work 
based on earlier kernels used devfs exclusively.


b.g.

-- 
Bill Gatliff
So what part of:
   $ make oldconfig clean dep zImage
do you not understand?
bgat@billgatliff.com


  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-23  2:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-21  6:29 [GIT PATCH] Remove devfs from 2.6.12-git Greg KH
2005-06-21  6:30 ` [PATCH] devfs: Remove devfs from the partition code Greg KH
2005-06-21  6:54 ` [GIT PATCH] Remove devfs from 2.6.12-git Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 13:50   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-06-21 15:10   ` Greg KH
2005-06-21 20:11     ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:52       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-21 21:03         ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 21:16           ` Greg KH
2005-06-21 21:58             ` J.A. Magallon
2005-06-23  1:00     ` Mike Bell
2005-06-23  1:18       ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23  2:13         ` Bill Gatliff [this message]
2005-06-23  4:59       ` Greg KH
2005-06-23  6:14         ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23  6:26           ` Greg KH
2005-06-23  6:36             ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23  7:03               ` Greg KH
2005-06-23 19:54             ` Kay Sievers
2005-06-23  6:34           ` Mike Bell
2005-06-23  6:37             ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23  6:47               ` Mike Bell
2005-06-23  6:51               ` Greg KH
2005-06-23  6:38             ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23  6:28         ` Mike Bell
2005-06-23  6:48           ` Greg KH
2005-06-23  8:29             ` Mike Bell
2005-06-23 12:58               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-24  8:24               ` Greg KH
2005-06-23 15:13             ` Per Liden
2005-07-18 16:36         ` Richard Gooch
2005-07-18 20:12           ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-18 22:29             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-07-19  2:51             ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-21 17:35 ` Carsten Otte
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-23  4:08 David Brownell
2005-06-23  6:21 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23  8:10 ` Russell King
2005-06-23  5:08 David Brownell
2005-06-23  5:22 ` Bill Gatliff

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