From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262157AbVFWFXc (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:23:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262185AbVFWFXc (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:23:32 -0400 Received: from saturn.billgatliff.com ([209.251.101.200]:6847 "EHLO saturn.billgatliff.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262157AbVFWFW6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:22:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42BA471E.7010208@billgatliff.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:22:38 -0500 From: Bill Gatliff User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050602) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux Kernel list Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] Remove devfs from 2.6.12-git References: <200506222208.58494.david-b@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <200506222208.58494.david-b@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David: David Brownell wrote: >The downside of "disable-and-remove-later" is that it becomes >too easy to just re-enable the Kconfig stuff rather than just >fixing the userspace bugs. Expecting userspace to change at >any point before it absolutely _must_ tends to be a formula >for userspace never changing, sadly enough. > >If 2.6.13 doesn't remove devfs, when will it really go away? > > Good point. I've come this far somewhat reluctantly, but can see that udev is a better long-term solution. Once devfs is gone, it's easier for me to justify doing the work to go fully over to udev (GregKH, can you post a link or two to those "packages" you refer to?). And also, once devfs is gone it's an easier economic decision for my customers, too: either they move ahead and get whatever new features that non-devfs kernels offer, or they do the work to keep the current stuff in the state they want it. It's their call, I (sometimes) get paid either way... And it isn't like just my customers would be in this situation, everyone will have to face it. So it's "fair" for everyone. So, I guess I'm into the "say goodbye to devfs" camp now. In case anyone asks, that is. :^) b.g. -- Bill Gatliff Build a man a fire, and he's warm for the rest of the night. Set a man on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life. -- Anonymous bgat@billgatliff.com