From: Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: penberg@gmail.com, reiser@namesys.com, ak@suse.de,
flx@namesys.com, zam@namesys.com, vs@thebsh.namesys.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com,
penberg@cs.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:29:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42BB0D99.7070703@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050623114318.5ae13514.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.de> wrote:
>>>>+ assert("nikita-955", pool != NULL);
>> >
>> > These assertion codes are meaningless to the rest of us so please drop
>> > them.
>>
>> As someone who spends time debugging reiser3 issues, I've grown
>> accustomed to the named assertions. They make discussing a particular
>> assertion much more natural in conversation than file:line.
>
> __FUNCTION__?
__FUNCTION__ gives additional context, sure, but it doesn't address one
of the main advantages of numbered assertions: the ability to track the
same assertion across different versions without having to verify that
it is indeed the same assertion on every one. The line number can still
change very easily, and if there are several assertions in a row, it's
not immediately obvious (at a glance) that it is the same assertion.
Reiser[34] warnings use the same mechanism.
I do agree that some pain comes with it, you can end up with assertion
numbers that are all over the place or you start by spreading them out
in a manner we all thought we left behind when we moved beyond BASIC.
I'm not totally committed to it, I just wanted to address the assumption
that numbered assertions were worthless to the rest of the world.
However, I do want to take a moment to address what I think is a bigger
issue in the code. Perhaps it's not enough to be a barrier to inclusion,
but since I'm going through the reiser3 code and addressing these now, I
thought I'd mention them.
All the assertions (a quick grep through the code shows something like
3800 of them) ultimately result in a reiser4_panic, which BUG()'s. Are
*all* of these assertions really worth taking the system down? I think a
reiser4_error function that can abort just that filesystem and recover
somewhat gracefully would be a bit more in order.
-Jeff
--
Jeff Mahoney
SuSE Labs
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Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20050620235458.5b437274.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-06-21 11:14 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 18:44 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 19:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 20:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-22 1:38 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 1:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 1:57 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 2:55 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 3:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 8:09 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 8:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23 6:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-23 7:42 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 8:08 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-23 13:10 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 16:15 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-23 16:23 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-23 19:56 ` Ross Biro
2005-06-23 17:17 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 21:18 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 18:37 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-06-23 18:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23 19:29 ` Jeff Mahoney [this message]
2005-06-23 19:45 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 19:32 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-25 16:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-25 19:23 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 21:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-26 1:03 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 23:54 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26 10:03 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-27 7:24 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-27 7:28 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 7:49 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 8:19 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-27 8:20 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 12:27 ` [PATCH] verbose BUG_ON reporting Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 12:38 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 12:45 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 12:40 ` [PATCH] " Jörn Engel
2005-06-23 19:24 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Hans Reiser
2005-06-24 1:13 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26 0:45 ` Christian Trefzer
2005-06-26 1:13 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-26 2:23 ` Christian Trefzer
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2005-06-22 1:26 ` reiser4 plugins Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 2:47 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 3:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-22 15:29 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 13:20 -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Ian Pratt
2005-06-23 13:37 ` Mark Williamson
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2005-06-22 14:40 ` Bodo Eggert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-21 6:54 Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 12:01 ` Andrey Panin
2005-06-21 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 13:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22 10:50 ` Erik Slagter
2005-06-21 12:43 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-21 12:58 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-21 14:08 ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:00 ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 15:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 15:39 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 19:38 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:02 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-21 20:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:07 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 20:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:15 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-22 5:53 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-06-21 22:54 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 20:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-21 22:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 23:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 23:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 6:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 15:43 ` Matt Porter
2005-06-21 19:41 ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 20:05 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 20:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-21 20:22 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:56 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 21:23 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22 6:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-21 21:28 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 23:32 ` Chris Wright
2005-06-23 13:04 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 16:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-22 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23 2:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-24 4:06 ` Paul Jackson
2005-06-24 4:54 ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 15:50 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-21 18:56 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-22 18:00 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-21 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:37 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 5:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 14:25 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-27 19:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:44 ` Joel Becker
2005-06-27 20:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 20:37 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-30 18:30 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-27 20:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
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