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From: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] ndevfs - a "nano" devfs
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:36 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42BC3E8C.30602@tls.msk.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050624081808.GA26174@kroah.com>

Greg KH wrote:
> Now I just know I'm going to regret this somehow...
> 
> Anyway, here's yet-another-ramfs-based filesystem, ndevfs.  It's a very
> tiny:
> $ size fs/ndevfs/inode.o 
>    text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
>    1571     200       8    1779     6f3 fs/ndevfs/inode.o
> replacement for devfs for those embedded users who just can't live
> without the damm thing.  It doesn't allow subdirectories, and only uses
> LSB compliant names.  But it works, and should be enough for people to
> use, if they just can't wean themselves off of the idea of an in-kernel
> fs to provide device nodes.

Well.  Maybe directories really are of no use, but mknod/symlink/unlink
*are* useful.  That same mdadm who needs to create /dev/mdX *before*
that device is created?  And socket for /dev/log...

And oh, directories.. devpts?  Stuff like cciss/... represented in sysfs
like cciss!... ?

I don't see anything wrong with allowing creating/removing files in
the filesystem (except of possible locking issues which can arise) --
in-kernel support just does mknod/unlink on insert/remove, and if
that fails (EEXIST/ENOENT), well, so be it...

And since the whole namespace is now flat, another question comes in:
is there any guarantee the names will not overlap?  /dev/ttyS0 and
/dev/usb/ttyS0 (I don't remember which one it was, but I *think* I
saw same names but in different dirs in /dev...)

/mjt

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-24 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-24  8:18 [ANNOUNCE] ndevfs - a "nano" devfs Greg KH
2005-06-24 12:23 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-24 15:16   ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 15:40     ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-24 16:26       ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 14:32 ` Bill Gatliff
2005-06-24 15:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-24 15:20   ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 17:10 ` Michael Tokarev [this message]
2005-06-24 17:10 ` Bill Gatliff
2005-06-28  7:40   ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 19:05 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-24 21:55   ` J.A. Magallon
2005-06-24 19:22 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2005-06-25  0:57 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-25  7:37   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-28  7:41   ` Greg KH
2005-06-28 19:56     ` Tom Rini
2005-06-28 21:08       ` Olaf Hering
2005-06-28 21:25         ` Tom Rini
2005-06-28 22:08           ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-28 22:23             ` Tom Rini
2005-06-25 22:15 ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-25 23:43   ` Greg KH
2005-06-26  8:23     ` Russell King
2005-06-28  3:36       ` Greg KH
2005-06-27  7:19     ` Mike Bell
2005-06-27 22:35       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-27 23:26         ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28  7:40           ` Greg KH
2005-06-28  9:08             ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28  9:21               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-28  9:40                 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 21:49                 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-28 22:23                   ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 23:43                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-29  0:12                       ` Mike Bell
2005-06-29  0:39                         ` David Lang
2005-06-29  0:53                           ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 12:00             ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-28 20:08               ` Greg KH
2005-06-29  6:41                 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-29 16:06                   ` Greg KH
2005-06-29 16:22                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found] ` <200506270819.20108.arnd@arndb.de>
2005-06-28  3:46   ` Greg KH
     [not found] <OF831AC472.851744FE-ON8025702A.004A57EC-8025702A.004B5AE9@sophos.com>
2005-06-24 15:23 ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-24 15:32 tvrtko.ursulin
2005-06-24 16:27 ` Greg KH
2005-06-27 15:21 Adam J. Richter
2005-06-27 23:27 ` J.A. Magallon

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