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From: Alejandro Bonilla <abonilla@linuxwireless.org>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	Paul Sladen <thinkpad@paul.sladen.org>,
	linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org,
	borislav@users.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, mlord@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:41:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42BDDD7C.7090402@linuxwireless.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050625200953.GA1591@ucw.cz>

Vojtech Pavlik wrote:

>On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 01:13:17PM -0500, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I have a question here, how do you guys think that the head is parked, 
>>is it done by the controller directly, which then sends the command to 
>>the HD to park the head, or this is done by the operating system in some 
>>kind of way?
>>
>>I think the OS or user space is too slow like to react to send a park 
>>command to the hard drive, so this most be done directly by the embedded 
>>controller, but still I think it needs some input from the OS, to 
>>initialize it's settings.
>>    
>>
>
>The only way to park a drive is to send a command to it through the IDE
>interface. This can't be done by the controller itself, since the
>controller in the ThinkPad is a classic Intel ICH chip which only passes
>commands around.
>
>The OS is definitely fast enough for this kind of task, it's doable even
>in userspace, although not easy.
>
>  
>
>>i.e. after all, in windows you do have the settings in the software
>>for HDAPS, but it looks like it is _not_ managed by the operating
>>system at all if there is some type of action to  be taken. This is
>>also probably why HDAPS won't kick in until booted, and that is
>>because it needs to load its config setup by the software.
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>This is what I think, please correct me if I'm saying something crazy.
>>    
>>
>
>It is definitely all done by the windows kernel driver.
>
>  
>
OK, So if this is done by the user space then I think we can play more 
with it? I guess that we could do a type of hdparm -F or hdparm -S to 
spin down the drive or maybe there is a way to add feature to hdparm to 
park the drive itself.

Aside from what we should do when we get the data... How can we/us/I 
start checking and see if we can find any response from the embedded 
controller?

Do we have to backengineer everything, can we get anything of this from 
IBM-ACPI, or our only way to go here is see if IBM will do anything?

Thanks for all the answers. I really don't want to drop the topic, so 
that we can figure this one out.

.Alejandro

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-25 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <42B6F6F6.2040704@zipman.it>
2005-06-20 17:28 ` [ltp] Re: IBM HDAPS Someone interested? Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 19:51   ` Yani Ioannou
2005-06-20 20:11     ` Yani Ioannou
2005-06-20 20:25       ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 20:34         ` Yani Ioannou
2005-06-20 20:48           ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 21:35             ` Lee Revell
2005-06-20 21:57               ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 23:35                 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 10:49                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-22 12:50                     ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-23  7:13                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-23 10:06                         ` Eric Piel
2005-06-23 12:53                           ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-23 13:18                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-23 20:22                             ` Eric Piel
2005-06-23 20:42                               ` Lee Revell
2005-06-25  6:17                                 ` [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer) Paul Sladen
2005-06-25 11:31                                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-25 14:47                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-25 15:00                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-25 18:14                                       ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-25 20:14                                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-27 12:33                                           ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-06-27 13:10                                             ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-27 21:02                                               ` Lee Revell
2005-06-28  3:22                                                 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-28  5:40                                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-06-28 15:40                                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-25 18:13                                     ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-25 20:09                                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-25 22:41                                         ` Alejandro Bonilla [this message]
2005-06-27  3:35                                         ` [Hdaps-devel] " Shawn Starr
2005-07-03  8:37                                         ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-03 10:16                                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-03 11:07                                             ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-03 18:17                                               ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-03 19:21                                                 ` [Hdaps-devel] " Dave Hansen
2005-07-03 18:29                                                   ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-03 19:37                                                     ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-03 19:42                                                   ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-03 18:52                                                     ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-03 19:42                                                     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-07-03 20:03                                                       ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-03 20:53                                                   ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-07-03 19:41                                                 ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-11  9:42                                           ` [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Userspace accelerometer viewer) Paul Sladen
2005-07-11 14:26                                             ` Alan Cox
2005-07-11 16:53                                               ` [Hdaps-devel] " Dave Hansen
2005-07-11 17:31                                               ` Paul RIVIER
2005-07-11 20:09                                               ` [Hdaps-devel] " Daniel Willmann
2005-07-12 15:55                                                 ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-11 15:13                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12  9:41                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2005-07-11 16:21                                             ` [Hdaps-devel] " Dave Hansen
2005-07-13 16:27                                             ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-25 17:42                                   ` [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer) Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-27 10:36                                     ` P
2005-06-23 15:33                   ` [ltp] Re: IBM HDAPS Someone interested? Jan Knutar
2005-06-23 17:08                     ` Lee Revell
2005-06-23 20:47                       ` Andrew Haninger
2005-06-24  9:16                       ` P
2005-06-24 12:56                       ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-24 17:20                       ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 20:53         ` Vojtech Pavlik
     [not found] ` <005b01c575bd_724fac60_600cc60a@amer.sykes.com>
2005-06-20 20:25   ` Pavel Machek

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