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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH: IDE - sensible probing for PCI systems
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:31:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42C0623E.5040405@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61L.0506271516270.23903@blysk.ds.pg.gda.pl>

Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
> 
>>>Well, keyboard and mouse are USB these days, serial and parallel are PCI,
>>>floppies are not used anymore and the ISA DMA controller would only be 
>>
>>Oh, how I wish this were true!
>>
>>The pre-production machines I get (i.e. not even on the market yet) still have
>>floppy, serial, and PS/2 kbd/mouse.
> 
> 
>  You must be getting them from wrong vendors. ;-)  How about switching to 
> a reasonable platform that doesn't imply DOS compatibility?

What's reasonable about a system without serial connectivity? Damn hard 
to debug with a serial console without one. Yes you can get around it, 
but it's one more issue to address. PS/2? I have enough KVM hardware in 
place to make that non-sales point, and I bet that there are lots of 
people with some fancy mouse, or keyboard, or game thingie, that it's 
cheaper to keep the features than drop them. I don't know if the ATX 
standard requires them, but low cost features are hard to drop.

-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-27 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-21 12:23 PATCH: IDE - sensible probing for PCI systems Alan Cox
2005-06-21 13:42 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-06-21 14:12   ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 15:10     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-06-21 18:46       ` Alan Cox
2005-06-23 18:22         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-06-23 22:48           ` Alan Cox
2005-06-24 11:52             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-06-24 22:41               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-27 14:18                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-06-27 20:31                   ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2005-06-25 12:32               ` Alan Cox
2005-06-27 14:55                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-06-27 16:24                   ` Russell King
2005-06-27 19:54                   ` Alan Cox

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