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From: Alejandro Bonilla <abonilla@linuxwireless.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: Shawn Starr <shawn.starr@rogers.com>,
	Lenz Grimmer <lenz@grimmer.com>,
	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>, Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>,
	Henrik Brix Andersen <brix@gentoo.org>,
	hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	LKML List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: IBM HDAPS things are looking up
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:24:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42C970D1.3090609@linuxwireless.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050704144634.GQ1444@suse.de>

Jens Axboe wrote:

>
>That's madness, we can't add a kernel thread for every single little
>silly thing. You don't need to stop any io, you just want to make sure
>that your park request gets issued right after the current io has
>finished.
>  
>
HI,

    For me, the heads have to park so fast. That I would be afraid of a 
kernel panil or something that could happen if you park the head so fast 
that it won't even tell the kernel it did, or because ext3 couldn't 
update or any crazy reason.

    I use a lot a project called laptop_mode, which suspend the hd until 
you do a request to the kernel or the HD and it spins up the HD. I think 
somehow, the kernel is not fast enough to do what we want, I mean, I 
don't see it.

    Imagine you are in starbucks, your laptop is over a 1.2 M table, 
Linus just said that a new kernel is out. So you simply download it, and 
now you are compiling it. But, you invited your kid to Starbucks. And 
while your CPU is at 100% and full throttle HD usage. Then your kid 
trips on the cable or simply pushes the PC out.

    Do you think that the kernel will STOP, HOLD and park the head in 
less than a second? OR on the time we need?

    I would say is a dammed good kernel if it would. (could RTOS, make 
things faster)

Simply send the flames my way if you think I'm totally wrong. Which I 
might be. I really don't know...

.Alejandro

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-04 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-04  1:32 IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Jesper Juhl
2005-07-04  2:12 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-04  6:00 ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04  6:17   ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04  5:30     ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-04  6:37       ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04  7:16         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-04  7:22           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04  7:27             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-04  7:30               ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 10:33                 ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04 11:06                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 13:18                     ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04 13:25                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 14:32                         ` [Hdaps-devel] " Shawn Starr
2005-07-07  8:03                     ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Jens Axboe
2005-07-07  8:41                       ` Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up) Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-07  8:48                         ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 10:17                           ` [Hdaps-devel] " Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-07 15:06                           ` Shawn Starr
2005-07-07  9:07                         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-07 11:44                           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 13:28                             ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-07 14:28                       ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Shawn Starr
2005-07-07 14:37                         ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-07 15:06                           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 20:43                           ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-07-07 15:05                         ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 23:00                           ` Jon Escombe
2005-07-07 23:31                             ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-08  6:31                             ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-08 18:32                               ` Shawn Starr
2005-07-07 15:03                       ` Shawn Starr
2005-07-07 17:02                       ` Clemens Koller
2005-07-07 17:15                         ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-07 17:34                           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 17:49                             ` Matthew Garrett
2005-07-07 18:52                               ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 17:27                         ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 17:38                           ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-07 18:01                             ` Lee Revell
2005-07-07 18:03                               ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-07 18:48                             ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 13:03             ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-04 20:30               ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04 22:12                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-04 21:08               ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-05  7:14                 ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-05 12:29                   ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-05 15:41                     ` Sander
2005-07-05 15:52                       ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-05 15:45                     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-04 10:28     ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04 14:27     ` Shawn Starr
2005-07-04 14:46       ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 17:24         ` Alejandro Bonilla [this message]
2005-07-04 18:36           ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up dean gaudet
2005-07-05  5:13             ` Lee Revell
2005-07-04 18:40           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 18:59     ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Aaron Cohen
2005-07-04 19:27       ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04  8:45   ` Andrey Panin
2005-07-04 10:49 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-04 11:00   ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-04 12:32 ` Pavel Machek
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2005-07-08  0:56                       ` Bodo Eggert
2005-07-08  0:46                         ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-08  6:27                           ` Jens Axboe

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