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From: Lenz Grimmer <lenz@grimmer.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Alejandro Bonilla <abonilla@linuxwireless.org>,
	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>, Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>,
	hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	LKML List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:17:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42CD0141.8050407@grimmer.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050707084825.GG1823@suse.de>

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Hi,

Jens Axboe wrote:

> Very cool, I wasn't sure if this was a 'new' feature waiting to be 
> implemented in drives or if ata7 just documented existing use in some
>  drives.
> 
> How long did the park take? Spec states it can take up to 500ms.

Hard to measure (I don't have the C skills to add timing to your sample
snippet...), but almost instantly after issuing the command. "time"
states the command takes around 0.733 seconds in total (until the
command returns), the head park happens almost instantly after the
program started, probably after ~300ms).

> The head just remains parked until the next command is issued.

Right, which usually happens right away on a busy system, especially
when it's using swap (think KDE desktops :) )

> This needs to be combined with some ide help, to freeze the queue.
> Perhaps some sysfs file so you could do
> 
> # echo park > /sys/block/hda/device/head_state
> 
> Or whatever, at least just exposing this possibility so that the
> drive internally can block future io until a 'resume' command is
> issued.

Or for a given timeout, whatever happens first. Sounds good to me!
So would this feature require modifications to the IDE layer?

Bye,
	LenZ
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-07 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-04  1:32 IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Jesper Juhl
2005-07-04  2:12 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-04  6:00 ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04  6:17   ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04  5:30     ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-04  6:37       ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04  7:16         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-04  7:22           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04  7:27             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-04  7:30               ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 10:33                 ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04 11:06                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 13:18                     ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04 13:25                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 14:32                         ` [Hdaps-devel] " Shawn Starr
2005-07-07  8:03                     ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Jens Axboe
2005-07-07  8:41                       ` Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up) Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-07  8:48                         ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 10:17                           ` Lenz Grimmer [this message]
2005-07-07 15:06                           ` [Hdaps-devel] " Shawn Starr
2005-07-07  9:07                         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-07 11:44                           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 13:28                             ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-07 14:28                       ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Shawn Starr
2005-07-07 14:37                         ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-07 15:06                           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 20:43                           ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-07-07 15:05                         ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 23:00                           ` Jon Escombe
2005-07-07 23:31                             ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-08  6:31                             ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-08 18:32                               ` Shawn Starr
2005-07-07 15:03                       ` Shawn Starr
2005-07-07 17:02                       ` Clemens Koller
2005-07-07 17:15                         ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-07 17:34                           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 17:49                             ` Matthew Garrett
2005-07-07 18:52                               ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 17:27                         ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-07 17:38                           ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-07 18:01                             ` Lee Revell
2005-07-07 18:03                               ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-07 18:48                             ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 13:03             ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-04 20:30               ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04 22:12                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-04 21:08               ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-05  7:14                 ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-05 12:29                   ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-05 15:41                     ` Sander
2005-07-05 15:52                       ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-05 15:45                     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-04 10:28     ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04 14:27     ` Shawn Starr
2005-07-04 14:46       ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 17:24         ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-04 18:36           ` dean gaudet
2005-07-05  5:13             ` Lee Revell
2005-07-04 18:40           ` Jens Axboe
2005-07-04 18:59     ` IBM HDAPS things are looking up (was: Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)) Aaron Cohen
2005-07-04 19:27       ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-07-04  8:45   ` Andrey Panin
2005-07-04 10:49 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-04 11:00   ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-04 12:32 ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-07 17:14 Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up) Martin Knoblauch
2005-07-07 17:34 ` [Hdaps-devel] " Dave Hansen
2005-07-07 18:45   ` Martin Knoblauch
2005-07-07 18:51     ` Erik Mouw
2005-07-07 18:58       ` Martin Knoblauch
2005-07-07 18:59       ` Shawn Starr
2005-07-07 19:00   ` Martin Knoblauch

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