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From: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>
To: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
Cc: Marc Aurele La France <tsi@ualberta.ca>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel header policy
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:26:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42D3C51D.3020703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200507120206.j6C26kGY017571@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl>

Horst von Brand wrote:

>>I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
>>development.  I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
>>headers that break compatibility at the userland level, where __KERNEL__
>>isn't #define'd.
>>    
>>
>
>The policy with respect to kernel headers is /very/ simple:
>
>  T H E Y   A R E   N E V E R   U S E D   F R O M   U S E R L A N D.
>
>This general policy makes all your points (trivially) moot.
>

I must admit a little confusion here.  Clearly, kernel header files are
used at the user level.  The kernel and user level applications must share
definitions for a great many things.

Perhaps more precisely, the rule is that kernel header files should not be
#include'd directly from user level applications, but may be #include'd
indirectly through other header files as appropriate?

    Thanx...

       ps

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-12 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-11 21:37 Kernel header policy Marc Aurele La France
2005-07-11 21:56 ` Stephen Frost
2005-07-11 22:44 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-07-12  2:06 ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-12 13:26   ` Peter Staubach [this message]
2005-07-12 13:36     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-12 16:30       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-12 18:38     ` Jim Nance
2005-07-12 19:08       ` Eric Piel
2005-07-12 20:18         ` Tom Rini
2005-07-12  3:07 ` Greg KH

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