From: Baruch Even <baruch@ev-en.org>
To: "Tomasz Kłoczko" <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Cc: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, karim@opersys.com,
varap@us.ibm.com, richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Merging relayfs?
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:21:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42D3D1F3.1030405@ev-en.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.62.0507121544450.6919@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Tom Zanussi wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Andrew, can you please merge relayfs? It provides a low-overhead
>> logging and buffering capability, which does not currently exist in
>> the kernel.
>>
>> relayfs key features:
>>
>> - Extremely efficient high-speed logging/buffering
>
>
> Usualy/for now relayfs is used as base infrastructure for variuos
> debuging/measuring.
> IMO storing raw data and transfer them to user space it is wrong way.
> Why ? Becase i adds very big overhead for memory nad storage.
> Big .. compare to in situ storing partialy analyzed data in conters
> and other like it is in DTrace.
>
> IMO much better will be add base/template set of functions for use in
> KProbes probes which will come with KProbes code as base tool set. It
> will allow cut transfered data size from megabites/gigabyutes to hundret
> bytes/kilo bytes, make debuging/measuring more smooth without additional
> latency for transfer data outside kernel space.
There is no relation between using kprobes and reducing the logged data
size. At the end the debugging/tracing facility is there to provide data
to the developer who tries to detect the problem or ensure correctness.
The kprobes can only serve as a replacement to changing the source code
in order to extract the debugging information, and it does it very well.
Cutting the amount of data transferred is only possible if you add the
problem detection logic into the kernel and only transport problem
reports to user-mode.
Baruch
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-12 1:10 Merging relayfs? Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 1:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:17 ` Dave Airlie
2005-07-12 2:22 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 9:12 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 2:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 2:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:59 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-14 13:26 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-14 15:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 14:04 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-17 15:52 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 5:17 ` Hareesh Nagarajan
2005-07-18 14:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 14:16 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-18 15:20 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 15:58 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 23:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-23 2:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-26 2:35 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 15:06 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:41 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 8:40 ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-12 13:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 3:05 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:03 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 3:24 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 4:30 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 4:40 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 5:23 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:36 ` Steve Rotolo
2005-07-12 3:55 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 4:27 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:21 ` Baruch Even [this message]
2005-07-12 15:30 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 15:16 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 15:44 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 16:27 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 17:23 ` Tom Zanussi
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2005-07-12 19:29 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 20:44 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-12 21:02 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 12:40 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:04 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:22 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 4:29 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 13:47 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:55 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-13 15:56 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:58 ` Jason Baron
2005-07-12 15:26 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 15:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:08 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:36 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 21:38 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 23:55 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-13 0:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-16 21:07 ` relayfs documentation sucks? bert hubert
2005-07-16 23:13 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 9:01 ` [PATCH] " bert hubert
2005-07-17 15:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 19:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-17 20:47 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-20 21:27 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-20 21:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-21 0:31 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:33 ` relayfs as infrastructure, ltt, systemtap, diskstat bert hubert
2005-07-23 18:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-23 18:53 ` [PATCH] Re: relayfs documentation sucks? Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-25 23:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-26 5:15 ` bert hubert
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2005-07-12 4:36 ` Merging relayfs? Andi Kleen
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2005-07-13 8:13 Spirakis, Charles
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