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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>
Cc: "Vlad C." <vladc6@yahoo.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux On-Demand Network Access (LODNA)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:24:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42D55C75.4010307@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42D5340A.7060002@redhat.com>

Peter Staubach wrote:

> Vlad C. wrote:
>
>> --- Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Please treat at greater length how your proposal
>>> differs from NFS.
>>>   
>>
>>
>> I think NFS is not flexible enough because:
>>
>> 1) NFS requires synchronization of passwd files or
>> NIS/LDAP to authenticate users (which themselves
>> require root access on both server and client to
>> install)
>> 2) NFS by definition understands only its own network
>> protocol.
>> 3) NFS requires root privileges on the client to
>> mount. I'm not aware of a way to let normal users
>> mount an NFS partition other than listing it in the
>> client's fstab and adding the 'users' option... but
>> then changing fstab still requires root access.
>> 4) Users have to contact their sysadmin every time
>> they want to mount a different partition, a different
>> subdirectory of the same partition, or if they want to
>> change the local mountpoint, all because the partition
>> and mountpoint are hard-coded in fstab.
>>
>> On the other hand, I envision the following:
>>
>
> Please keep in mind that these are restrictions of the current NFS
> implementation and are not inherent in an NFS solution.
>
> The implied need for flexibility is being addressed by NFSv4 and the
> ability to understand multiple versions of protocols and multiple
> protocols is already resident in the system.  We could do some work
> to make it more transparent if desired, but it already works.
>
>    Thanx...
>
>       ps
>
>
Peter, do you agree with his point that mounting should be something
ordinary users can do on mountpoints they have write permission for?

Do you agree that a systematic review of user friendliness would help
NFS?  Do you think that NFS should look at SFS and consider adopting
some of its features?

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-13 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-12 16:07 Linux On-Demand Network Access (LODNA) Vlad C.
2005-07-12 18:48 ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-12 19:32   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2005-07-12 23:44   ` Vlad C.
2005-07-13  1:18     ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-14 19:32       ` Vlad C.
2005-07-13 15:32     ` Peter Staubach
2005-07-13 18:24       ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-07-13 18:47         ` Peter Staubach
2005-07-13 19:07           ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-14 18:43       ` Vlad C.
2005-07-14 15:57 ` Alan Cox

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