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From: Jan Blunck <j.blunck@tu-harburg.de>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux-Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ramfs: pretend dirent sizes
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:14:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42DD50FC.9090004@tu-harburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050719183206.GA23253@taniwha.stupidest.org>

Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> 
> So the size you want to reflect is n*<stack-depth> i take it?  Where
> in this case n is 20?
> 
> So you can seek to m*<stack-depth>+<offset> to access an offset into
> something at depth m?
> 

Yes.

>>The i_size of a directory isn't covered by the POSIX standard. IMO,
>>it should be possible to seek in the range of i_size and a following
>>readdir() on the directory should succeed.
> 
> With what defined semantics?  What if an entry is added in between
> seek and readdir?
> 

You have the same problem with regular files. This is a user and not a 
kernel problem.

> 
> Why?  It seems perfectly reasonable that we can return 0 in such
> cases.  Zero seems to make more sense as 'magical/unknown' than say
> any other arbitrary value.
> 

I disagree. Where is the information value of i_size if we always could 
return 0? IMO it should be at least an upper bound for the "number" of 
informations that could actually be read (in terms of a seek offset) 
like it is in the case of regular files. Better, if it is a strict upper 
bound so that you can seek to every value smaller than i_size. For this 
purpose the i_size of directories doesn't need to reflect any unit.

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-19 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-15  3:01 [PATCH] ramfs: pretend dirent sizes Jan Blunck
2005-07-15  3:11 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-15 10:16   ` Jan Blunck
2005-07-15 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-16  0:39   ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-19  9:28     ` Jan Blunck
2005-07-19 16:16       ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-19 18:22         ` Jan Blunck
2005-07-19 18:32           ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-19 19:14             ` Jan Blunck [this message]
2005-07-19 19:16               ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-20 11:21                 ` Jörn Engel
2005-07-20 18:11                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-20 18:48                     ` Jan Blunck
2005-07-20 18:52                       ` Peter Staubach
2005-07-21  7:26                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-07-21  7:20                     ` Jörn Engel
2005-07-21  7:25                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-21  7:27                         ` Jörn Engel
2005-07-20 18:24                 ` Jan Blunck
2005-07-20 18:50                   ` Peter Staubach
2005-07-19  9:46   ` Jan Blunck
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     [not found] ` <4qoU5-6CQ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <4qvsI-32Y-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-07-15 13:12     ` Bodo Eggert
2005-07-19  9:13       ` Jan Blunck

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