From: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
To: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com, varap@us.ibm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Merging relayfs?
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:35:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42E5A168.4000600@opersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17121.44053.855399.587966@tut.ibm.com>
Tom Zanussi wrote:
> In userspace, the sub-buffer reading loop looks at the commit value in
> the sub-buffer, and if it matches (sub-buffer size - padding), the
> buffer has been completely written and can be saved, otherwise it's
> not yet complete and is checked again the next time around. This way,
> there's no need for a deliver() callback, the relay_commit() is
> replaced with the increment of the reserved commit value, the arrays
> aren't needed and you get the same result in the end in a much simpler
> way, IMHO.
Actually this has a much greater potential of loosing buffers because
we have to poll the buffer for completion. Seen another way, the kernel-
side has got to wait until the user-side has "figured out" that it needs
to commit content to disk. As it was originally, it was relatively
straightforward to dertermine why data was lost: ok, we've signaled it
from kernel space, but the daemon never flushed it out. Without commit/
deliver, things are much less clear, and I still miss what gain we
are making by removing them.
I would very much like to see the commit/deliver functionality back.
Such mechanisms are required for any sane producer-consumer model.
Karim
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-26 2:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-12 1:10 Merging relayfs? Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 1:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:17 ` Dave Airlie
2005-07-12 2:22 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 9:12 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 2:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 2:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:59 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-14 13:26 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-14 15:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 14:04 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-17 15:52 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 5:17 ` Hareesh Nagarajan
2005-07-18 14:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 14:16 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-18 15:20 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 15:58 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 23:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-23 2:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-26 2:35 ` Karim Yaghmour [this message]
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 15:06 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:41 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 8:40 ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-12 13:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 3:05 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:03 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 3:24 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 4:30 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 4:40 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 5:23 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:36 ` Steve Rotolo
2005-07-12 3:55 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 4:27 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:21 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 15:30 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 15:16 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 15:44 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 16:27 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 17:23 ` Tom Zanussi
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2005-07-12 19:29 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 20:44 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-12 21:02 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 12:40 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:04 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:22 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 4:29 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 13:47 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:55 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-13 15:56 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:58 ` Jason Baron
2005-07-12 15:26 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 15:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:08 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:36 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 21:38 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 23:55 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-13 0:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-16 21:07 ` relayfs documentation sucks? bert hubert
2005-07-16 23:13 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 9:01 ` [PATCH] " bert hubert
2005-07-17 15:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 19:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-17 20:47 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-20 21:27 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-20 21:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-21 0:31 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:33 ` relayfs as infrastructure, ltt, systemtap, diskstat bert hubert
2005-07-23 18:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-23 18:53 ` [PATCH] Re: relayfs documentation sucks? Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-25 23:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-26 5:15 ` bert hubert
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2005-07-12 4:36 ` Merging relayfs? Andi Kleen
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2005-07-13 8:13 Spirakis, Charles
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