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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
	David.Mosberger@acm.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	"Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Add prefetch switch stack hook in scheduler function
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:34:00 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42E8A688.7070802@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050728091638.GA25846@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
> 

>>>such as?
>>
>>Not sure. thread_info? Maybe next->timestamp or some other fields in 
>>next, something in next->mm?
> 
> 
> next->thread_info we could and should prefetch - but from the generic 
> scheduler code (see the patch i just sent).
> 

Right. We're always testing the TIF_NEED_RESCHED field after the
switch.

> i'm not sure what you mean by prefetching next->timestamp, it's an 
> inline field to 'next', in the first cacheline of it, which we've 
> already used so it's present. (If you mean the value of next->timestamp, 
> that has no address meaning at all so would lead to unpredictable 
> results on some arches.)
> 

No, I meant the cacheline holding the field of course. I guess I
could have looked for a field further down, but even so, ->timestamp
might be 96 bytes into the structure on a 64-bit arch, which may or
may not be the first cacheline... but you get the idea.

> next->mm we might want to prefetch, but it's probably not worth it 
> because we are referencing it too soon, in context_switch(). (while the 
> kernel stack itself wont be referenced until the full context-switch is 
> done) But might be worth trying - but even then, it should be done from 
> the generic code, like the thread_info and kernel-stack prefetching.
> 
> 
>>I didn't really have a concrete example, but in the interests of being 
>>future proof...
> 
> 
> i'd like to keep generic bits in generic code, and only move things to 
> per-arch include files if absolutely necessary. next->mm is generic.
> 

Yeah, then a specific field _within_ next->mm or thread_info may
want to be fetched. In short, I don't see any argument why we
shouldn't call the function prefetch_task().

Secondly, I don't really like your prefetch(kernel_stack()) function
because it doesn't really give architectures enough control over
exactly what cachelines they get in memory.

prefetching and memory access patterns of all this stuff are fairly
architecture specific. I see nothing wrong with having a prefetch_task()
call. (Although I agree things like thread_info->flags and next->mm can
be done in generic code).

Nick

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-28  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-27 22:07 Add prefetch switch stack hook in scheduler function Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-27 23:13 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-27 23:23   ` david mosberger
2005-07-28  7:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28  8:09       ` Keith Owens
2005-07-28  8:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28  9:09           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 19:14             ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29  7:04               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29  7:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29  8:30                   ` Eric Dumazet
2005-07-29  8:44                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-31 16:27                     ` hashed spinlocks Daniel Walker
2005-07-31 18:46                       ` David S. Miller
2005-07-31 19:06                         ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-31 19:11                           ` David S. Miller
2005-07-31 19:16                             ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-29  8:30                   ` Add prefetch switch stack hook in scheduler function Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29  8:35                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29  8:39                       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29  9:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-29 10:52                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29  7:22                 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29  7:45                   ` Keith Owens
2005-07-29  8:02                     ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29  8:28                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29  9:02                     ` Russell King
2005-07-29  9:45                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29  7:38                 ` Keith Owens
2005-07-29  8:08                   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-28  8:31         ` Nick Piggin
2005-07-28  8:35           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28  8:48             ` Nick Piggin
2005-07-28  9:16               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28  9:19                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28  9:34                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-07-28 10:04                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 10:29                     ` Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-29 15:18 linux
2005-07-29 15:49 ` Ingo Molnar

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