From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
David.Mosberger@acm.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
"Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Add prefetch switch stack hook in scheduler function
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:34:00 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42E8A688.7070802@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050728091638.GA25846@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>>such as?
>>
>>Not sure. thread_info? Maybe next->timestamp or some other fields in
>>next, something in next->mm?
>
>
> next->thread_info we could and should prefetch - but from the generic
> scheduler code (see the patch i just sent).
>
Right. We're always testing the TIF_NEED_RESCHED field after the
switch.
> i'm not sure what you mean by prefetching next->timestamp, it's an
> inline field to 'next', in the first cacheline of it, which we've
> already used so it's present. (If you mean the value of next->timestamp,
> that has no address meaning at all so would lead to unpredictable
> results on some arches.)
>
No, I meant the cacheline holding the field of course. I guess I
could have looked for a field further down, but even so, ->timestamp
might be 96 bytes into the structure on a 64-bit arch, which may or
may not be the first cacheline... but you get the idea.
> next->mm we might want to prefetch, but it's probably not worth it
> because we are referencing it too soon, in context_switch(). (while the
> kernel stack itself wont be referenced until the full context-switch is
> done) But might be worth trying - but even then, it should be done from
> the generic code, like the thread_info and kernel-stack prefetching.
>
>
>>I didn't really have a concrete example, but in the interests of being
>>future proof...
>
>
> i'd like to keep generic bits in generic code, and only move things to
> per-arch include files if absolutely necessary. next->mm is generic.
>
Yeah, then a specific field _within_ next->mm or thread_info may
want to be fetched. In short, I don't see any argument why we
shouldn't call the function prefetch_task().
Secondly, I don't really like your prefetch(kernel_stack()) function
because it doesn't really give architectures enough control over
exactly what cachelines they get in memory.
prefetching and memory access patterns of all this stuff are fairly
architecture specific. I see nothing wrong with having a prefetch_task()
call. (Although I agree things like thread_info->flags and next->mm can
be done in generic code).
Nick
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-28 9:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-27 22:07 Add prefetch switch stack hook in scheduler function Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-27 23:13 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-27 23:23 ` david mosberger
2005-07-28 7:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 8:09 ` Keith Owens
2005-07-28 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 9:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 19:14 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29 7:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29 7:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29 8:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-07-29 8:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-31 16:27 ` hashed spinlocks Daniel Walker
2005-07-31 18:46 ` David S. Miller
2005-07-31 19:06 ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-31 19:11 ` David S. Miller
2005-07-31 19:16 ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-29 8:30 ` Add prefetch switch stack hook in scheduler function Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29 8:39 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-29 10:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29 7:22 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29 7:45 ` Keith Owens
2005-07-29 8:02 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-29 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29 9:02 ` Russell King
2005-07-29 9:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-29 7:38 ` Keith Owens
2005-07-29 8:08 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-28 8:31 ` Nick Piggin
2005-07-28 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 8:48 ` Nick Piggin
2005-07-28 9:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 9:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 9:34 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-07-28 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 10:29 ` Nick Piggin
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2005-07-29 15:18 linux
2005-07-29 15:49 ` Ingo Molnar
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