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From: James Bruce <bruce@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Marc Ballarin <Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 00:50:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42EEFB9B.10508@andrew.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050801204245.GC17258@thunk.org>

Theodore Ts'o wrote:
 > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 12:18:18PM -0400, James Bruce wrote:
 >>The tradeoff is a realistic 4.4% power savings vs a 300% increase in
 >>the minimum sleep period.  A user will see zero power savings if they
 >>have a USB mouse (probably 99% of desktops).  On top of that, we can
                                     ^^^^^^^^

 > Most laptops (including mine, a Thinkpad T40) use a PS/2 mouse.  So in
 > the places where power consumption savins matters most, it's usually
 > quite possible to function without needing any USB devices.  The 90%
 > figure isn't at all right; in fact, it may be that over 90% of the
 > laptops still use PS/2 mice and keyboards.

Yes, laptops are mostly PS/2, which is why I only claimed a statistic 
for desktops.  Desktops pretty much all use USB mice now.  If 250Hz were 
only being sold as an option for laptops, we could leave it at that, yet 
its being pushed as a default that's "good for everyone".  For desktops 
this is not currently true at all.  By the time USB is fixed to do power 
saving, we'll probably have a working tick-skipping patch which makes 
the whole HZ argument moot.

  - Jim Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-02  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-29 22:49 Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers Marc Ballarin
2005-07-29 23:15 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 10:06   ` Marc Ballarin
2005-07-30 18:05     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 18:18       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-30 18:14         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 18:35         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 20:00         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 19:51       ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 20:04         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 20:10           ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 20:21             ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 21:10               ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 21:41                 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 21:57                   ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:32                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:20                     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-08-01  1:59                     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-02  9:08                   ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-07-31 21:54                 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 22:02                 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 22:18                   ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:07                 ` Jim Crilly
2005-07-31 22:36                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 22:39                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01  3:49                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-08-01  7:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-01 18:16                         ` Jim Crilly
2005-08-10 18:49                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-31 22:12                 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:47                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:23                     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 23:29                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:53                         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01  7:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 19:00                           ` Bill Davidsen
2005-08-01  6:19                       ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-08-01 16:07                         ` Jan Knutar
2005-08-01 18:45                           ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02  9:13                         ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-08-02 14:58                           ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01  7:44                       ` David Weinehall
2005-08-01 16:18                         ` James Bruce
2005-08-01 19:27                           ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 20:42                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-08-02  4:50                             ` James Bruce [this message]
2005-08-02 13:10                               ` Stephen Clark
2005-08-02 14:02                                 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:12                                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-08-02 17:06                                     ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-08-02 17:45                                       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-02 17:55                                         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:15                                   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-02 14:20                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-02 14:22                                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:18                                     ` Joel Jaeggli
2005-08-03  8:53                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-02 14:43                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-02 14:52                                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 19:26                                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-02 15:42                                 ` James Bruce
2005-08-02 15:58                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 17:02                                     ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-08-02 16:08                                   ` Ondrej Zary
2005-08-05  6:39                                     ` James Bruce
2005-08-11 19:22                                       ` Ondrej Zary
2005-08-03  9:19                               ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2005-08-03 13:57                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-04 12:52                                   ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2005-08-02  6:45                           ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-02 11:23                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:08                             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:31                               ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-02 11:25                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:07                             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-03 17:13                               ` Stephen Ray
2005-08-03 19:12                                 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 20:08         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 10:06 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 19:08   ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-03 15:20 ambx1
2005-08-03 16:47 ` James Bruce

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