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From: Janak Desai <janak@us.ibm.com>
To: serue@us.ibm.com
Cc: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, sds@tycho.nsa.gov,
	linuxram@us.ibm.com, ericvh@gmail.com, dwalsh@redhat.com,
	jmorris@redhat.com, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
	gh@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] New system call, unshare
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:05:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42FA17CB.1020702@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050810141849.GA5639@serge.austin.ibm.com>

serue@us.ibm.com wrote:
> Quoting Florian Weimer (fw@deneb.enyo.de):
> 
>>* Janak Desai:
>>
>>
>>>With unshare, namespace setup can be done using PAM session
>>>management functions without patching individual commands.
>>
>>I don't think it's a good idea to use security-critical code well
> 
> 
> Note that this patch is not removing the CAP_SYS_ADMIN requirement,
> just allowing the operation to happen outside of clone().  Unlike
> domain transitions in selinux, which should be tied to exec() so
> as to tie them to known code, I don't see what clone() would provide
> in terms of safety which we are losing.
> 
> 
>>without its original specification.  Clearly the current situation
>>sucks, but this is mainly a lack of PAM functionality, IMHO.
> 
> 
> I'm not sure this is to do with PAM functionality, rather than
> just its design.  Is there a way of "fixing" pam so that we don't
> need unshare()?
> 

I have been trying to narrow down the problem since Alan's post
about using clone() instead of unshare. The problem comes down to
parent, on _exit(), clobbering controlling tty. I have tried, from
the child, to close and open the tty stored in PAM but that has
not helped.

-Janak


  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-10 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-08 13:28 [PATCH 0/3] New system call, unshare Janak Desai
2005-08-10 14:08 ` Florian Weimer
2005-08-10 14:18   ` serue
2005-08-10 15:05     ` Janak Desai [this message]
2005-08-23  6:18   ` Al Viro
2005-09-07 17:34     ` Janak Desai

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