From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: James Bruce <bruce@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Marc Ballarin <Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:00:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42FA4ECD.1070108@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1122854036.13000.33.camel@mindpipe>
Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 01:29 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>
>>>>I'm pretty sure at least one distro will go with HZ<300 real soon now
>>>>;-).
>>>>
>>>
>>>Any idea what their official recommendation for people running apps that
>>>require the 1ms sleep resolution is? Something along the lines of "Get
>>>bent"?
>>
>>So you busy wait for 1msec, big deal.
>
>
> Which requires changing all those apps. I thought we tried not to break
> userspace with minor kernel version upgrades.
Sounds like you were wrong.
This whole thing is silly, I'm very aware of battery life issues, but in
real ues we are talking about maybe 3% more battery life. People who are
totally anal about it will build their own kernel, or use a vendor
kernel with varioble tick rate, but saving <2BTU/hr is not going to let
anyone buy a smaller A/C unit. The computer user gives off way more than
that.
I would leave it at 1k and push for variable tick, which should make
everyone happy.
>
>
>>Some machines can't even keep time properly with HZ=1000.
>
>
> If your workaround for broken hardware involves screwing over people
> with good hardware, it might be the wrong workaround.
>
>
>> Official recommendation is likely "help us
>>with CONFIG_NO_IDLE_HZ" or "get over it".
>
>
> IOW, "if you don't like it, get another distro, or compile your own
> kernel".
>
> Lee
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-10 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-29 22:49 Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers Marc Ballarin
2005-07-29 23:15 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 10:06 ` Marc Ballarin
2005-07-30 18:05 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 18:18 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-30 18:14 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 18:35 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 20:00 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 19:51 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 20:04 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 20:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 20:21 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 21:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 21:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 21:57 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:32 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:20 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-08-01 1:59 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-02 9:08 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-07-31 21:54 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 22:02 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 22:18 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:07 ` Jim Crilly
2005-07-31 22:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 22:39 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 3:49 ` Jim Crilly
2005-08-01 7:26 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-01 18:16 ` Jim Crilly
2005-08-10 18:49 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-31 22:12 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:47 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:23 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 23:29 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:53 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 7:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 19:00 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2005-08-01 6:19 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-08-01 16:07 ` Jan Knutar
2005-08-01 18:45 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 9:13 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-08-02 14:58 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 7:44 ` David Weinehall
2005-08-01 16:18 ` James Bruce
2005-08-01 19:27 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 20:42 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-08-02 4:50 ` James Bruce
2005-08-02 13:10 ` Stephen Clark
2005-08-02 14:02 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:12 ` Jens Axboe
2005-08-02 17:06 ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-08-02 17:45 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-02 17:55 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:15 ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-02 14:20 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-02 14:22 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:18 ` Joel Jaeggli
2005-08-03 8:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-02 14:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-02 14:52 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 19:26 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-02 15:42 ` James Bruce
2005-08-02 15:58 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 17:02 ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-08-02 16:08 ` Ondrej Zary
2005-08-05 6:39 ` James Bruce
2005-08-11 19:22 ` Ondrej Zary
2005-08-03 9:19 ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2005-08-03 13:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-04 12:52 ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2005-08-02 6:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-02 11:23 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:08 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:31 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-02 11:25 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:07 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-03 17:13 ` Stephen Ray
2005-08-03 19:12 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 20:08 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 10:06 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 19:08 ` Bill Davidsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-03 15:20 ambx1
2005-08-03 16:47 ` James Bruce
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