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From: Michael Thonke <iogl64nx@gmail.com>
To: Allen Martin <AMartin@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux mailing-list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NCQ support NVidia NForce4 (CK804) SATAII
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:09:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42FB6A19.1070300@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBFABB80F7FD3143A911F9E6CFD477B004FAE3E7@hqemmail02.nvidia.com>

Allen Martin schrieb:

>>Erm, why they are not willing to support NCQ under Linux...I 
>>mean many 
>>people using NVIDIA based mainboards. And that against that what I 
>>thought NVidia stands for - Linux friendly but seems only that this 
>>statement fit on graficcards? Is there no "responsible" person that 
>>says...Hello, Linux is a growing market that we need to 
>>serve? With full 
>>driver/program support?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
>be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
>especially for storage / boot volume.
>
Who won't have drivers for Linux? Who told you that..?
It would be a start point if closed or not closed source but say never 
ever as your mail suggest is not a way to go.Whats about Servers that 
using NForce Based Chipsets and they need NCQ? Always saying not needed 
or so hard to hand out specs..is the lazy way that a company like NVidia 
shouldn't go.

>  We decided it wasn't worth the
>headache of a binary driver for this one feature.
>
Yes,you Nvidia decide..what's about the costumer dosn't the costumer 
option counts? It's the A and the O of costumer relationship.
Holding up a possiblity is better than say: "Oh, the costumers buy our 
hardware but have no right to use it at all."
So I paid 120€ for a NVidia Nforce4 and 3 Mainboard..and what..I can't 
use it correctly only in Windows?
NVidia seems only interesseted in GPU market so they hand out a bit of 
drivers...mh they are also closed source..so the argument you offered 
aboved is senseless...because NVidia do so for quite a long time.

>  Future nForce
>chipsets will have a redesigned SATA controller where we can be more
>open about documenting it.
>
>-Allen
>
>  
>
So this was the last piece of NVidia I bought...about 400 Workstation 
..is not the worth.

Michael

-- 
Michael Thonke
IT-Systemintegrator /
System- and Softwareanalyist




  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-11 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-10 20:53 NCQ support NVidia NForce4 (CK804) SATAII Allen Martin
2005-08-10 21:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-08-11  7:09 ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-08-11 13:05   ` Lee Revell
2005-08-11 15:17     ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-11 15:22       ` Lee Revell
2005-08-11 15:43         ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-11 16:18           ` Roger Heflin
2005-08-11 16:32             ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-12 19:02             ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-08-11 15:39       ` Diego Calleja
2005-08-12  6:17         ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-08-11 17:20       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 17:27         ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-08-11 17:44           ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-11 17:48             ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-08-11 19:29             ` Heikki Orsila
2005-08-11 17:38         ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-11 17:46           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 17:57             ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-11 18:32               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 18:55                 ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-11 18:04           ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-08-11 18:17             ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-12 20:10           ` Andre Tomt
2005-08-11 15:09 ` Michael Thonke [this message]
2005-08-15  6:01 ` Christopher Chan
     [not found] <fa.psg95ip.1emqnop@ifi.uio.no>
2005-08-14 13:29 ` Willem Riede
2005-08-14 15:18   ` Lion Vollnhals
2005-08-15 13:42     ` Stephen Frost
2005-08-18 14:23       ` Chris Wedgwood
     [not found] <DBFABB80F7FD3143A911F9E6CFD477B004FAE3E7@hqemmail02.nvidia.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20050811070943.GB8025@vega.lgb.hu.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <1123765523.32375.10.camel@mindpipe.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <42FB6C27.1010408@gmail.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <42FB88F8.7040807@pobox.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-08-11 18:44         ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-10 18:59 Allen Martin
2005-08-10 18:11 Michael Thonke
2005-08-10 18:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-10 18:28   ` Michael Thonke
2005-08-10 18:52   ` Michael Thonke

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