From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751071AbVHKPJ0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:09:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751073AbVHKPJ0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:09:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.193]:28229 "EHLO zproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751060AbVHKPJ0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:09:26 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=NM5E39YJ2p49JAFdxynoXkKTFF5ZcCci3tkSjet/O/Cplw4Mkkb1wEB2CcxHZYv615zJ8PCgwWamS5bSjP60o/ivv0A5pGwT+st3R6kGRARV2JfNeFG0RD8qNBqwmx6D0NptANs4JeavzLmlNNH0Ry1xXNVrpFi9DMOP+MNyQC0= Message-ID: <42FB6A19.1070300@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:09:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050808) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allen Martin CC: linux mailing-list Subject: Re: NCQ support NVidia NForce4 (CK804) SATAII References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Michael Thonke Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Allen Martin schrieb: >>Erm, why they are not willing to support NCQ under Linux...I >>mean many >>people using NVIDIA based mainboards. And that against that what I >>thought NVidia stands for - Linux friendly but seems only that this >>statement fit on graficcards? Is there no "responsible" person that >>says...Hello, Linux is a growing market that we need to >>serve? With full >>driver/program support? >> >> >> > >Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would >be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that, >especially for storage / boot volume. > Who won't have drivers for Linux? Who told you that..? It would be a start point if closed or not closed source but say never ever as your mail suggest is not a way to go.Whats about Servers that using NForce Based Chipsets and they need NCQ? Always saying not needed or so hard to hand out specs..is the lazy way that a company like NVidia shouldn't go. > We decided it wasn't worth the >headache of a binary driver for this one feature. > Yes,you Nvidia decide..what's about the costumer dosn't the costumer option counts? It's the A and the O of costumer relationship. Holding up a possiblity is better than say: "Oh, the costumers buy our hardware but have no right to use it at all." So I paid 120€ for a NVidia Nforce4 and 3 Mainboard..and what..I can't use it correctly only in Windows? NVidia seems only interesseted in GPU market so they hand out a bit of drivers...mh they are also closed source..so the argument you offered aboved is senseless...because NVidia do so for quite a long time. > Future nForce >chipsets will have a redesigned SATA controller where we can be more >open about documenting it. > >-Allen > > > So this was the last piece of NVidia I bought...about 400 Workstation ..is not the worth. Michael -- Michael Thonke IT-Systemintegrator / System- and Softwareanalyist