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From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Ryan Brown <some.nzguy@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.53-01, High Resolution Timers & RCU-tasklist features
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:39:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <430127CC.5080102@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050815062934.GA5915@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> 
>>* George Anzinger <george@mvista.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ingo, all
>>>
>>>I, silly person that I am, configured an RT, SMP, PREEMPT_DEBUG system. 
>>> Someone put code in the NMI path to modify the preempt count which, 
>>>often as not will generate a PREEMPT_DEBUG message as there is no tell 
>>>what state the preempt count is in on an NMI interrupt.  I have sent 
>>>the attached patch to Andrew on this, but meanwhile, if you want RT, 
>>>SMP, PREEMPT_DEBUG you will be much better off with this.
>>
>>ah - thanks, applied. Might explain some of the recent SMP weirdnesses 
>>i'm seeing. Attributed them to the HRT patch ;-)
> 
> 
> i'm still seeing weird crashes under SMP, which go away if i disable 
> CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS. (this after i fixed a couple of other SMP bugs 
> in the HRT code) It happens sometime during the bootup, after enabling 
> the network but before users can log in. There's no good debug info, 
> just a hang that comes from all CPUs trying to get some debug info out 
> but crashing deeply.
> 
I haven't looked at this new code all that closely as yet.  One thing I 
did notice is that there is an assumption that the "timer being 
delivered flag" can be shared between LR timers and HR timers.  I 
suspect this is wrong as the delivery code is in seperate threads (I 
assume).  This could lead to del_timer_async missing a timer.

In the prior patch we just ignored the del_timer_async issue for HR 
timers (code I plan to do soon).  This WAS taken care of in earlier 
kernels by a reuse of one of the list link fields, but Andrew convince 
me that this was _not_ good.

So, my guess, a nanosleep for an RT task (I think you said these are 
promoted to HR) is completing and over writing the deliver in progress 
flag for a LR timer which just happens to have a del_timer_sync going on 
at the same time.
-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
HRT (High-res-timers):  http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-15 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-11 11:00 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.53-01, High Resolution Timers & RCU-tasklist features Ingo Molnar
2005-08-12  3:07 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-12  3:19   ` Lee Revell
2005-08-12  7:03     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-12  7:48     ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-12  7:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-13  0:28 ` Ryan Brown
2005-08-13  0:32   ` Lee Revell
2005-08-13  0:57     ` George Anzinger
2005-08-14  2:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-15  6:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-15 23:39           ` George Anzinger [this message]
2005-08-16  6:36             ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-15 11:18   ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc6-V0.7.53-11 Ingo Molnar
2005-08-15 20:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-08-16  3:53       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-16 14:35         ` Alan Stern
2005-08-16 16:12           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-16 16:56             ` Alan Stern
2005-08-16 17:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-17  2:23               ` David Brownell
2005-08-17 14:10                 ` Alan Stern
2005-08-17 20:51                   ` David Brownell
2005-08-18  4:52                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-18  6:37                       ` David Brownell
2005-08-18 14:43                         ` Alan Stern
2005-08-22 11:07                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-17  6:31               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-16  8:41     ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-08-16 12:32       ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt1 Michal Schmidt
2005-08-27  1:15         ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt1 Matt Mackall
2005-08-29 22:36           ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt1 Esben Nielsen
2005-08-17  0:53 ` [patch] KGDB for Real-Time Preemption systems George Anzinger
2005-08-17  6:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-17 19:16     ` George Anzinger
2005-09-05 12:23   ` Serge Noiraud
2005-09-08  0:37     ` George Anzinger
2005-09-07  8:55   ` Serge Noiraud
2005-09-07 21:16     ` George Anzinger
2005-09-08  8:57       ` Serge Noiraud
2005-09-08 20:47         ` George Anzinger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-11 18:39 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.53-01, High Resolution Timers & RCU-tasklist features Guillaume Foliard
2005-08-12 12:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-12 19:27   ` Guillaume Foliard
2005-08-12 19:47     ` Guillaume Foliard
2005-08-12 20:07     ` Chuck Harding

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