From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: andersen@codepoet.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:19:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4319BEF5.2070000@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050903064124.GA31400@codepoet.org>
Erik Andersen wrote:
>
> That is certainly not what I was proposing. Why are you bringing
> sys/stat.h into this? The contents of sys/stat.h are entirely up
> to SUSv3 and the C library to worry about. Nobody has proposed
> mucking with that. I dunno about your C library, but mine
> doesn't include linux/* header files (not even sys/stat.h). And
> I'd really like to fix uClibc to not use any asm/* either, since
> much of it is entirely unsuitable for user space.
>
That's the whole problem here, isn't it, so let's fix it the sane way
instead of putting Descartes before Dehorse.
Anyway, to answer your implied question is: since I explicitly don't
have to worry about forward ABI compatibility, I expose the kernel ABI
raw. Thus I want to be able to use the kernel ABI directly, including
for things like struct stat. It poses a particularly interesting
problem, actually, because the real stat system call is called stat64 on
most platforms.
Thus, an ABIzed <linux/abi/stat.h> or whatever it's called might export
"struct __kabi_stat" and "struct __kabi_stat64" with the expectation
that the caller would "#define __kabi_stat64 stat" if that is the
version they want. A typedef isn't good enough for C, since you can't
typedef struct tags.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-03 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-02 3:00 [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 13:41 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-02 20:51 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:58 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 0:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 0:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 0:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 4:28 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 5:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 5:50 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 5:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 6:41 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 15:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 15:19 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2005-09-03 16:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-05 16:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-05 23:28 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-06 1:29 ` [RFC][MEGAPATCH] Change __ASSEMBLY__ to __ASSEMBLER__ (defined by GCC from 2.95 to current CVS) Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10 8:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10 8:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-10 17:38 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10 22:04 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-11 0:33 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-11 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-11 3:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12 8:09 ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 15:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-12 15:47 ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 17:17 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-09-12 21:14 ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 21:39 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12 17:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-12 17:51 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12 21:04 ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-14 13:56 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-15 21:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2005-09-03 5:55 ` [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 5:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 6:05 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 15:36 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-03 16:33 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 16:51 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-14 13:46 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-14 17:01 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-09-14 17:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-14 18:14 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-14 19:09 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-09-14 19:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-14 19:46 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 21:42 ` Jeff Dike
2005-09-02 21:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-02 22:44 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-02 23:41 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
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