From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: jan.kiszka@googlemail.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: i386: kill !4KSTACKS
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:43:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43209457.6060301@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58d0dbf10509071054175e82ff@mail.gmail.com>
Jan Kiszka wrote:
> 2005/9/7, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>:
>
>>Is there a technical reason ("hard to implement" is a practical reason)
>>why all stacks need to be the same size?
>>
>
>
> Because of
>
> static inline struct thread_info *current_thread_info(void)
> {
> struct thread_info *ti;
> __asm__("andl %%esp,%0; ":"=r" (ti) : "" (~(THREAD_SIZE - 1)));
> return ti;
> }
> [include/asm-i386/thread_info.h]
>
> which assumes that it can "round down" the stack pointer and then will
> find the thread_info of the current context there. Only works for
> identically sized stacks. Note that this function is heavily used in
> the kernel, either directly or indirectly. You cannot avoid it.
Avoiding it isn't necessary, a config option to read a variable
THREAD_SIZE would solve this part of it. I looked at the implications of
this, and other than a slight overhead it looks as if the problem is
where to put the size :-( I think it could be done given that all
threads of a process would have the same size, but I am *not* suggesting
that it should be done.
>
> My current assessment regarding differently sized threads for
> ndiswrapper: not feasible with vanilla kernels.
Have to agree, it would take way more effort than it's worth, given that
the need can be avoided by allowing user config of the stack size. It
does look relatively easy to allow larger stack sizes, though. Wasn't
there one driver so ill-behaved it wouldn't even run in an 8k stack?
Andi made the point that allocating server size memory in 4k blocks
results in a lot of them, resulting in increased overhead in some
places. Thinking about configuring the stack size, maybe it would be
useful to make memory allocation block size independent of the hardware
and let both be set over a wide range in config.
--
-bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
last possible moment - but no longer" -me
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-08 19:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-04 14:51 RFC: i386: kill !4KSTACKS Alex Davis
2005-09-04 17:11 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-09-04 17:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-09-04 17:19 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-06 4:37 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-06 6:39 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-06 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-06 7:32 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-06 7:50 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-06 13:29 ` Diego Calleja
2005-09-06 13:25 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-09-06 17:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2005-09-06 17:23 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-09-06 18:42 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-09-06 18:46 ` viro
2005-09-06 19:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2005-09-06 20:21 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-09-07 17:46 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-07 17:54 ` Jan Kiszka
2005-09-07 19:52 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-07 20:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-07 20:29 ` Jan Kiszka
2005-09-07 20:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2005-09-07 21:57 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-09-07 23:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2005-09-08 1:06 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-09-08 19:43 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2005-09-06 22:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 22:21 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-06 22:36 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-09-06 22:28 ` Roland Dreier
2005-09-07 0:04 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 22:42 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-09-07 1:59 ` Mark Lord
2005-09-07 3:46 ` Lee Revell
2005-09-07 4:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-07 5:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-07 16:43 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-08 0:44 ` Alex Davis
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-06 10:29 Chuck Ebbert
2005-09-05 2:00 Alex Davis
2005-09-05 2:07 ` Sean
2005-09-05 2:29 ` Alex Davis
2005-09-05 3:00 ` Sean
2005-09-05 3:41 ` Alex Davis
2005-09-05 3:51 ` Sean
2005-09-05 4:03 ` Alex Davis
2005-09-05 4:12 ` Sean
2005-09-05 4:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-05 4:47 ` Sean
2005-09-05 5:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-05 5:31 ` Sean
2005-09-05 6:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-05 6:20 ` Sean
2005-09-05 6:29 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-05 15:29 ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-08 20:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-08 22:51 ` Sean
2005-09-05 6:41 ` Sander
2005-09-05 8:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-08 20:01 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-08 20:24 ` Christopher Friesen
2005-09-05 3:54 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-05 4:26 ` Dave Jones
2005-09-05 4:48 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-06 17:04 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-09-05 1:30 Alex Davis
2005-09-05 1:41 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-09-05 1:56 ` dean gaudet
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2005-09-04 17:33 ` Robert Hancock
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2005-09-02 6:08 ` Alex Davis
2005-09-04 12:49 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-04 13:30 ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-09-04 14:49 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-04 16:44 ` Paul Misner
2005-09-04 17:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-04 17:12 ` Bas Westerbaan
2005-09-04 19:22 ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-04 19:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-09-04 20:13 ` Bas Westerbaan
2005-09-04 20:37 ` Dave Jones
2005-09-07 16:38 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-07 17:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2005-09-08 19:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-05 22:32 ` Thorild Selen
2005-09-05 23:06 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 0:39 Adrian Bunk
2005-09-02 5:33 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-09-02 6:29 ` Nathan Scott
2005-09-02 6:40 ` Neil Brown
2005-09-13 8:05 ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-10-01 22:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-10-02 20:35 ` Nathan Scott
2005-09-02 6:55 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-02 21:58 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-04 3:48 ` Lee Revell
2005-09-04 7:36 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-09-04 8:23 ` Lee Revell
2005-09-04 19:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-09-04 12:12 ` Guillaume Chazarain
2005-09-04 13:26 ` Sander
2005-06-08 12:35 Ian Kumlien
2005-06-08 13:14 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-07 21:27 Adrian Bunk
2005-06-07 21:47 ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-06-08 10:03 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-08 10:39 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-08 11:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-06-08 12:13 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-07-04 18:22 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-05 6:14 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-07-05 13:46 ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-08 1:52 ` Ian Kent
2005-06-08 10:42 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-08 14:28 ` raven
2005-06-08 12:00 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-10 15:18 ` Vladimir Saveliev
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