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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Sonny Rao <sonny@burdell.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: "Read my lips: no more merges" - aka Linux 2.6.14-rc1
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:04:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43267A00.1010405@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050913063359.GA29715@kevlar.burdell.org>

Sonny Rao a écrit :
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:34:17PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> <snip> 
> 
>>On the filesystem level, FUSE got merged, and ntfs and xfs got updated. In 
>>the core VFS layer, the "struct files" thing is now handled with RCU and 
>>has less expensive locking.
> 
> 
> I hope this means that people will be more accepting of multi-threaded
> benchmarks (who needs real apps... ;-)) which do open() and close().
> 
> 
> Yes, no?

If you look at RCU change, you discover they impact read()/write()/... (no 
more locking), but not open()/dup()/socket() and close() that still take a 
spinlock to modify the state.

And if your process has many files opened, the cost (read : latency) of open() 
can be very high, finding a zero bit in a large bit array.

So these RCU changes can help some benchmarks (or real apps... ;-) ), but not 
some others :)

I wish a process param could allow open() to take any free fd available, not 
the lowest one. One can always use fcntl(fd, F_DUPFD, slot) to move a fd on a 
specific high slot and always keep the 64 first fd slots free to speedup the 
kernel part at open()/dup()/socket() time.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-13  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-13  3:34 "Read my lips: no more merges" - aka Linux 2.6.14-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2005-09-13  3:54 ` Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
2005-09-13  3:59   ` Keith Owens
2005-09-13  4:03     ` Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
2005-09-14  5:16     ` Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
2005-09-14 16:28       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-14 16:40         ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-09-14 16:43       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-14 16:52         ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-09-15  0:48       ` Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
2005-09-13 14:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-13  6:28 ` more fallout from ATI Xpress timer workaround (was: Linux 2.6.14-rc1) Cal Peake
2005-09-13 20:04   ` Jean Delvare
2005-09-13  6:33 ` "Read my lips: no more merges" - aka Linux 2.6.14-rc1 Sonny Rao
2005-09-13  7:04   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2005-09-15  4:06     ` David S. Miller
2005-09-15  4:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-15 20:13     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-09-15 20:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-15 21:08         ` Eric Dumazet
2005-09-15 20:41       ` Eric Dumazet
2005-09-13  7:34 ` Udo A. Steinberg
2005-09-13 10:40 ` Mathieu Fluhr
2005-09-13 11:15   ` Helge Hafting
2005-09-13 15:14   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-13 17:01   ` Mathieu Fluhr
2005-09-13 17:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-13 18:12       ` Mathieu Fluhr
2005-09-13 19:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-14  8:11           ` 2.6.13 brings buffer underruns when recording DVDs in 16x (was Re: "Read my lips: no more merges" - aka Linux 2.6.14-rc1) Mathieu Fluhr
2005-09-14  8:30             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 10:32               ` Mathieu Fluhr
2005-09-14 10:58                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 11:12                   ` Alessandro Suardi
2005-09-14 15:04           ` "Read my lips: no more merges" - aka Linux 2.6.14-rc1 Bill Davidsen
2005-09-14 23:38   ` Redeeman
2005-09-13 18:34 ` Roland Dreier
2005-09-13 18:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-13 21:32     ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-13 19:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-09-14 15:31 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-14 22:56   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-09-14 17:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-14 17:45   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-14 21:47 ` Henrik Persson
2005-09-14 23:20   ` Jesper Juhl
2005-09-16 19:51     ` Henrik Persson
2005-09-14 22:11 ` 2.6.14-rc1 on ATI hangs when executing _STA and _INI methods Peter Osterlund
2005-09-14 22:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-14 22:41     ` Peter Osterlund
2005-09-14 23:27 ` "Read my lips: no more merges" - aka Linux 2.6.14-rc1 Redeeman
2005-09-16  7:44 ` Tomasz Torcz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-13  6:07 Voluspa
2005-09-14 17:04 Steve Lee

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